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xkcd #3139: Chess Variant

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The draw-by-repetition rule does a good job of keeping players from sliding a tile back and forth repeatedly, but the tiles definitely introduce some weird en passant and castling edge cases.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There would need to be two missing 2x2 board pieces for symmetry.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Chess is already asymmetric since white moves first, so it's not necessarily a problem for the starting position to also be asymmetric. Though I wonder which would be the best starting position for the empty square, on white's side or black's?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'd think that having an empty 2x2 right in front of any of your pieces would limit your options for moving pieces. So I would put it in front of White, not in the middle, but on one of the edges. Also, White would not be allowed to shift the tile on their first turn, since that would just put the disadvantage on Black, who would shift a tile, yada yada. Maybe ... maybe you would only be allowed to shift a tile if you didn't shift a tile on your previous turn.

Another thing - would Queens, Bishops, Rooks be able to "jump" the empty space to cross from one side of an empty 2x2? I'm thinking yes.

[–] Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think the answer to that question will be clear once you play test it

You'd probably want both varients, though I suspect being able to block a queen attack by moving a tile would bring more tatically nuance.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't be hard to build a paper board and play on that.

[–] Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago

I'm going to put on together once I have time See how that goes, I don't have anyone to trial it against though but I'll put a Lemmy post up about it

[–] Bubs@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 days ago

Maybe instead of starting with a hole, one player gets to choose which 2x2 to remove? It would have to be early on to ensure there is always a few empty 2x2s to choose from.

So maybe black chooses the 2x2 to remove and then white makes their first move. That way black gets a bit of an advantage since white moves first.