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Busses work perfectly well for suburban neighbourhoods with back yards. With 1000m² each, you can place more than 250 lots around a bus stop, so that no one will have to walk more than 500m. With average families of four, that's a thousand potential passengers. Not enough for a metro station, but more than enough for a bus service every 10-20 minutes to get to the next train station.
What also works well: Build a few 3 story apartment buildings, a supermarket, a few small stores, a school, a kindergarten and a pub around a train station. Build the single family homes around that infrastructure and you have the perfect place for almost everyone. Families can live in the outer area, when the kids get older they can move out into the apartments and still be around. When they start their own family they move back into the garden homes and the grandparents who get too old to work their gardens can move to the apartments. And all that within 15 minutes walking distance of a train station.
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Of cause you can decide not to live in a nice place. It's always your choice if you want to move somewhere else where you have to drive 2 hours to get to any useful place. Just don't expect that we want you driving through our neighborhood. I don't see how a 15 minute city would limit your freedom of movement when it is literally built around a mobility hub.
Well I would walk 500m.
And I would walk 500 more.
Just to be the man who walks a 1000m to take the bus.
My neighborhood used to have three bus lines. I think it's down to one, and we recently put in the laziest bike lanes. (Painting a bicycle in the hard shoulder is not sufficient!)