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Manufacturing Consent

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No literal cardboard and foam.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I should have been more clear that I object to these being called “decoys” because they are clearly functioning drones, just made out of junk.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All except possibly one of them had no explosives on board.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which means they are capable of carrying explosives and that couldn’t have been known if they were or weren’t before being shot down. It’s possible I don’t know the technical definition of “decoy” but that sure doesn’t fit the description to me from a layman’s understanding.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Decoy means they are designed to waste Ukrainian anti air rockets and munitions by having them believe they are explosive drones. It's literally what a decoy drone is. That is why they are shaped similar to the Shahed so people cannot tell the difference from afar.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Perhaps I’m conflating “decoy” and “dummy”. But if one of the drones had real, actual explosives in it I don’t see how it’s a waste of resources to defend yourself from them.

Or am I misunderstanding what you mean when you say there were explosives found. Is the point that these drones, even if carrying explosives, we’re not actually capable of detonation?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I read rumors one single drone allegedly held a small amount of explosives (like 4pounds/2kg). I'm not sure if this was actually confirmed.

Actual Shaheds can carry 100pounds/50kg of explosives.

These Gerbera drones are not a more cost effective way of delivering explosives beacuse they also require a motor and other hardware. They are meant to deplete air defenses.