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Lmao... That's a wild take. Boston dynamics has been steadily improving this whole time, they were the first to really crack bipedal locamotion. Not just walking, running and flipping. Carrying loads. Kipping back up to their feet
You can, right now, for $8k buy a humanoid robot that can run, and be controlled to do whatever else. That's insane
And you can get shelf stacking humanoid robots that work commercially. These exist and are for sale
Amazon is currently field testing humanoid robots that deliver packages from the truck to the door.
Your knowledge is very dated, friend.
Lol! Are you talking about this? Dude, this is what I meant when I called them a gimmick. And if I recall correctly, the "shelf stacking humanoid robots that work commercially", are not actually"working commercially". In fact, they didn't work at all when given actual things to lift and stack. They could only carry empty boxes, and dropped them more often than not, and tended to fall over all the time.
Like I said, even if they improve to the point where they don't fuck everything up...all they will be able to do, is the same thing people already do. Except people can also do all kinds of different things, without requiring an engineer to be onsite to set them up for the new task.
No... I've never seen those before. That's not what I'm talking about at all, I also think the Tesla robots piloted by humans are probably going nowhere, for the record
Want to run failed startups past me some more? I gave you examples of humanoid robots being tested in real world conditions
Ummm, except you didn't give me examples. Can you post a link to these robots that are actually being tested in real world conditions?
Or even a link to the $8k robots that are not the same as the one I found for $6k? I have a hard time believing that another $2k is going to somehow provide the difference between that thing, and something functional.
Yeah ok
Amazon delivery robots
$8k robot
Lol! The Agility Robotics model used by Amazon costs $250k per unit. And is currently only capable of moving empty totes around in a controlled environment.
And the Pudu model you linked, is listed on their website for $214k.
I know I half assed those links, but your numbers are an order of magnitude off lmao
Were you not able to open the link to their website? You can buy one today for $214k. It's the D9 model from your article.
Did you not convert from yuan or something lol?
Buddy, it's right there on the page I linked. Even your article says they're hoping to get the price down to under $30k, at some point. That's why I looked up their website directly, to see how much they're currently selling them for. It's $214k. I don't know what else to tell you.
I see one for $43k on there, I don't see any for $200k on that site
But that's kinda irrelevant, as is how much Amazon's robots cost. The point is how quickly robotics is advancing
There's so many companies making these that I can't find the one I saw weeks ago. They're being tested in real world conditions. There's a million groups playing with these things, trying to get them to do more and more tasks
And think of what full automation would look like... It would be a bunch of factory equipment like it is now. The automatons just need to carry and place stuff between stations, maybe slot things together and screw them in. That's not that high a bar
I just don't see the line where any of that is impossible. It seems inevitable if society doesn't collapse this decade
The disconnect is coming here:
I agree with you that robots building robots is not impossible. I disagree with you that it's therefore inevitable. I strongly disagree with you that it's therefore inevitable in the immediate future.
I think it's inevitable because capitalism, capitalism loves to treat people like replaceable cogs.
These would be literal replaceable cogs that never rest, don't have rights, don't need to account for safety concerns, and don't have any of the other messy human bits
And even if we managed to suddenly outgrow capitalism, being able to have robots making robots in space would be a huge game changer
I don't think you're arguing in good faith,at this point. You send me an article about a specific humanoid robot, claiming it costs $8k. That article clearly states the make and model, as well as provides pictures of the unit in question. It is the Pudu D9 humanoid robot.
So, I sent you the website where it is being sold, which clearly states a price, that doesn't match your claim...and now all of a sudden, you don't even know what robot you were talking about before?
Give me a break, man.
Yeah, well, searching things is impossible these days, and after clicking around for a while I found one that looked similar.
I did read an article about one, went to their page and it was listed as $8k, I looked up the specs and it looked like it could pick up about 20lbs and has a weak but reasonable grip, and it made an impact. Then I saw video of someone recording one running down a sidewalk - it was a cell phone recording, but the robot was controlled by someone filming a demo in public
I don't really care if you take me at my word or not, the price factor to me means more because it means every robotics program in the world will be able to play with them.
But again, this isn't the core of my argument at all, but by the time I was looking up links I was kinda getting bored with this. I like to argue over ideas, it's a field I'm following closely with so much happening and we're just too far apart to make this constructive.