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western leftists will never have my respect.

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[–] RedMenace@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Rosa Talks about it in Reform or Revolution in a way I always quote at social democrats because it's both funny and true:

Fourier’s scheme of changing, by means of a system of phalansteries, the water of all the seas into tasty lemonade was surely a fantastic idea. But Bernstein, proposing to change the sea of capitalist bitterness into a sea of socialist sweetness, by progressively pouring into it bottles of social reformist lemonade, presents an idea that is merely more insipid but no less fantastic.

It's still true a century later and SocDems (I include DemSocs in this category too) are no more radical.

[–] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

SocDems have abandoned any perspective of socialism, so I don't even care much about them. DemSocs, on the other hand have their faces pushed so hard against the liberal institutions arses that they have immense difficulty to think about solutions outside of the liberal political game, in the end being no better than other socdems.

[–] RedMenace@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

I just assume that DemSocs are cowardly SocDems. It's a lot quicker haha