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Today I got hit with the "china spyware" claim and would love some debunking (arxiv.org)
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I visited a talk on an event of the german chaos computer club and although I know about the casual chauvinism in these circles, I was appaled at the casual racist remarks AND I'm curious about the "china spyware android" claim. Knowing from my experience with ML so far its probably bs or overblown but I'm curious if there is a thorough debunk already.

The person holding the talk claimed that chinese android phones came loaded with spyware and I gound the linked study that is claimed to prove it. I'll check it more thoroughly tomorrow but so far it reads like "different legislation, get over it" but i'm not sure if its even easier to debunk.

Have a good one.

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[–] haui@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Yeah, good point. The core issue is probably the framing. Instead of "chinese freaks spy on poor westoids" it should be "companies abuse lax privacy laws and make tons of money".