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[โ€“] khannie@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I agree with pretty much everything there and they'll be better prepared next time but if I was Russia I'd be considering it a win. Ukraine deals with 10x that and more nightly.

I'd personally prefer NATO to extend a no fly zone well inside Ukraine with Ukrainian consent and down any Russian drones or missiles that breach it. The cause is there now and it would free up Ukrainian air defence kit in that area to be moved elsewhere. God knows they would benefit from that

[โ€“] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I'd sure cheer to see that happen, though I'd be surprised. My speculation on what we'll most likely see is either:

  • Nothing, except heightened alert in NATO countries (because Russia stops the drone attacks on NATO)
  • Direct coordination between AFU's air defense directorate and NATO countries to identify targets that are likely to encroach on NATO airspace and then NATO will interdict those targets, possibly while still over Ukraine proper (but more likely only over Ukraine on close approach to the border).

I don't know that I'm right, I'm just some mook on the internet, and if I had to bet I'd say it's much more likely that there needs to be still greater escalation from Russia before we see direct interdiction over Ukraine. But we can hope.

(And if Russia considers this a win, who knows. They're big on their "Just according to keikaku" spins over there, and at this point they're not exactly renowned for their tactical or strategic planning abilities)