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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

All three were democratically elected. Even Putin, before he dismantled Russian democracy.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

There was no democracy in Russia at any point in time. Putin was placed in charge to restore USSR, and he didn't win by chance.

North Korea also has elections, so does Iran, Belarus, the difference is that we always know who will win.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 15 hours ago

I'm not sure where you got that from, but no, Putin won three* free and fair elections, one as PM and two as president.

*My memory is iffy so it could be that his reelection as president wasn't a fair election, but the preceding two were.

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Simply untrue?

The us system is so wildly undemocratic with its two party, first past the post, electoral college that definitionally it cannot be considered a democracy!

We may never know what happen and happened in russia! Boris Yeltsin, the president before Putin, literally disappeared for weeks then suddenly reappeared next to Putin to hold speeches… And you are telling me that Putin was elected democratically for the first round?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The us system is so wildly undemocratic with its two party, first past the post, electoral college that definitionally it cannot be considered a democracy!

We can get into the philosophy of it, but Trump was as democratically elected as any other president in US history.

And you are telling me that Putin was elected democratically for the first round?

Until you can provide evidence to the contrary, yes.

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

-Yea, which is not democratic at all as the us is definitionally not a democracy!

-It literally has a wikipedia page(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin%27s_rise_to_power)… Being oblivious does not equate to being a sceptic!