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[–] fishos@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In his own words, kids should witness public executions. He literally wanted his kids to see this. Do you really feel bad for the kids knowing that he would have just indoctrinated them too? I feel like they were liberated from a lifetime of abuse.

[–] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey i really dislike punishing kids something they can't control, for example having dipshits as parents or being poor. I would argue them not seeing a person get shot and not be indoctrinated is the best outcome.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Now, again, remember that their father would WANT them to watch someone get shot. It's not "either or". He's a dipshit father AND he wants to subject them to abuse like watching an execution.

You're basically just saying "yeah, it would be great if they had completely different parents". Sure, that's true. But they have the parents they have and one of those parents is a racist piece of shit who would work to make them racist pieces of shit. Someone who if they were raped would force them to carry the baby to term and raise it.

At least in this circumstance there's the possibility that when they get older and learn about WHY their dad was shot, they might see how terrible his positions were and not want to be like him. Instead of being raised by the man who would likely make them watch other people be killed and laugh about it.

Do I really need to remind you of his stance on Nancy Pelosi's husband? He was asking people to bail out the attacker because he was a true patriot.

Dude was a piece of shit and everyone who no longer gets influenced by him is better off, full stop. Nothing that happened to him is anything that he wouldn't have celebrated if it was "one of them".

Those kids are better off.

[–] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am not disagreeing with you about them being better off without the dude. I just made the case for being in favor of the best possible result, yknow, where there is no punishment based on kinship. I don't see how anyone profits from adhering to any of kirks ideas.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Who is punishing the kids?

They're only part of the discourse because people who "feel bad for them" keep dragging them into it. The best thing anyone can do for them is to stop bringing them up. They're completely irrelevant the monstrous things that Charlie Kirk was doing.

[–] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Deciding that kids should be exposed to such violence is decidedly punishing them.

I agree they shouldn't be brought up, but they were.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So your gripe is with Charlie Kirk who wanted exactly that, not me. He wanted that exact world and died in that exact way BECAUSE OF HIS BELIEFS. He was the one punishing his kids, not us.

[–] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

OF COURSE my gripe is with charlie kirk. My point is, i don't wish ill unto humams that haven't done anything noteworthy.

Edit: One of my MANY gripes with these fascist assholes is that they wish ill on a bunch of people that have done nothing to anyone (which is their whole thing, i know).

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

See, you're twisting my words. I never wished ill will on his children. I said they're better off and you keep trying to say I wanted his kids to suffer. Maybe learn some reading comprehension?

[–] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

No, i don't. Do you think i am attacking you? I'm not. I was not looking for a fight here.

Writing is missing some nuances of talking in person, happens sometimes.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You keep going on and on about how I'm saying they deserved to see this, which I never said. I said they were better off, a nuance perfectly understood in text. You keep rallying against a position I never took.

[–] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Then this whole thread is about nothing. Neat. We are in agreement. I didn't intend to rail against anything you wrote. I do not think you did either.