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A free software to take back control of your videos

Peertube is an open, federated alternative to Youtube without advertising or tracking. On this site, you can find a good Peertube instance, with good rules, good moderation and most importantly a friendly community.

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Brainstorm: Improving Lemmy <-> PeerTube Federation (mander.xyz)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Sal@mander.xyz to c/peertube@lemmy.ml

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This brainstorm is motivated by two recent discussions:

When is it time to switch away from youtube?

Lemmy community feedback: Should we fetch and combine comments from cross-posts on the post screen? · Issue #3415 · LemmyNet/lemmy-ui

The conversations about YouTube alternatives and PeerTube’s limitations made me test the current state of Lemmy <--> PeerTube federation.

Federation already works quite well: you can pull in PeerTube channels, subscribe, upvote, and comment from Lemmy.

But I did notice one thing. Take this Techlore video on PeerTube:

https://techlore.tv/w/9a7d20d2-4cc1-4911-8fd7-0794d8fe3bd9

-> On PeerTube: 6 upvotes, 4 comments

I pulled the video into my instance and was able to upvote it from there, so federated voting is working well: https://mander.xyz/post/37959974

I then noticed it had also been cross-posted to lemmy.world: https://lemmy.world/post/35205985

-> On lemmy.world: 37 upvotes, 9 comments

So the cross-post has significantly more engagement than the original video. This highlights a visibility issue: PeerTube creators may be getting more reach than they realize, but that engagement is fragmented across federated posts.

Brainstorm

Would it make sense to allow cross-posting of already-federated PeerTube content without breaking the link to the original object?

Upvotes/likes: These could be funneled back into the original PeerTube video, so creators get a true sense of their reach.

Comments: Less clear. Should all comments be merged into the video thread, or should they remain scoped to the Lemmy community they were posted in?

I don’t think this is “GitHub issue” ready, but it seems worth discussing.

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[–] Sal@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

It does get a little complicated and confusing. And for some reason it only works for some PeerTube instances, not for all...

But, for example, let's say I like this video: https://tilvids.com/videos/watch/c8c6a9df-121e-4a00-95c1-b7af4beb73a1

By pasting that URL into the search box, the video is brought into the instance as a post. The channel is also pulled as a "locked" community. If anyone in the instance subscribes to that community, then future uploads to the PeerTube channel will be brought into the community.

Look, here is the channel pulled into your instance: https://sh.itjust.works/c/bpt11_channel@tilvids.com

If a user upvotes post, then the original video will get a "like". If one comments, the comment will appear under the original video.

But let’s be honest, Peertubés problem is discoverability of content.

I’ve discovered lately that there is a Firefox extension which lets you use Youtube and signals you when a video is already on Peertube. This could be great.

Yeah... I have been going through the effort of pulling channels and subscribing to them from within the instance so that future videos also populate the instance. It is some effort to discover these channels, but hopefully over time we can have a nice library of channels interacting with Lemmy.