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My venerable Moto G5 has developed multiple independent problems. Thus I'm in the marked for a new phone and I'm looking for suggestions.

I don't have many requirements, but those are non-negotiable:

  1. Must have a headphone jack
  2. Must have expandable storage (AFAIK that still means an SD card slot)

Bonus points for:
3) a large battery
4) not being from a chinese company
5) not having that ridiculous array of cameras on the back that seems to be common nowadays (I do want to be able take photos, but they don't have to be good)
6) not having a selfie camera that is built into the screen
7) being a rugged / outdoors phone (which seems to correlate with point 3)
8) allows for an alternative OS, or maybe even comes with one preinstalled.

Price doesn't really matter beyond me not wanting to get ripped off.

I already looked around a bit and found a couple of options:
a) Volla Phone X23: German company, comes with the option of their Android spin-off or Ubuntu Touch. Even has a replaceable battery. But the screenshot of the spin-off don't look like it would be for me and Ubuntu Touch doesn't seem to be quite there yet
b) AGM H5 Pro: from Portugal, a rugged phone, but only comes with Android 12 and I found no information on which version it can updated to. Also since it's kinda niche, I guess I can't put a non-google Android on it.
c) Moto G56: upgrade from what I have now. Back then I chose a Motorola because I was told I comes with the least amount of garbage pre-installed, is this still true?
I couldn't find it in the list of models LineageOS supports, but since a lot of other models are listed I attribute that to the G56 being new, right?
d) hopefully you can give me some better options

Thank you!

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[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] ackthxbye@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But sadly no SD-card, that's a no-go with a paltry 128GB of storage. The XR20 does have an SD-card slot, but is 4 years old by now.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

128gb, paltry??? Are you keeping an offline copy of your movie library?!

[–] ackthxbye@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's my music library, but yes.

I am like you...I've got 128 on phone and 512 SD card. As I'm reading this thred and looking what's on my phone and storage I've got a lot of stuff I'm carrying around I don't need to... Also my music library would never fit on anything under a terabyte.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Jesus, what do you do that necessitates having that much? I don't think I could listen to that much music if I tried.

[–] ackthxbye@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well to be fair, it's mostly flac. Which isn't exactly reasonable to have on a phone, but it serves as an extra backup.
And I see no reason why a new phone can't do something my nearly a decade old phone could do.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 5 days ago

It's definitely reasonable if you're using good wired headphones and if the phone has a good DAC

I keep a 1tb SSD of lossless music plugged into my car so I can definitely relate