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  • For a couple of years now, I have been collecting disposable vapes from friends and family. Initially, I only salvaged the batteries for “future” projects (It’s not hoarding, I promise), but recently, disposable vapes have gotten more advanced. I wouldn’t want to be the lawyer who one day will have to argue how a device with USB C and a rechargeable battery can be classified as “disposable”. Thankfully, I don’t plan on pursuing law anytime soon.

    Last year, I was tearing apart some of these fancier pacifiers for adults when I noticed something that caught my eye, instead of the expected black blob of goo hiding some ASIC (Application Specific Integrated Circuit) I see a little integrated circuit inscribed “PUYA”. I don’t blame you if this name doesn’t excite you as much it does me, most people have never heard of them. They are most well known for their flash chips, but I first came across them after reading Jay Carlson’s blog post about the cheapest flash microcontroller you can buy. They are quite capable little ARM Cortex-M0+ micros.

    Over the past year I have collected quite a few of these PY32 based vapes, all of them from different models of vape from the same manufacturer. It’s not my place to do free advertising for big tobacco, so I won’t mention the brand I got it from, but if anyone who worked on designing them reads this, thanks for labeling the debug pins!

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    [–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    This is the coolest thing I've seen today. It's crazy how much computing power goes into passing current through a heating element. This should all be done with just a potentiometer and a switch to the battery, if only to make it cheaper for the manufacturer.

    [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 4 points 5 days ago

    I agreed with you at first, but now I think it's a bit more difficult. I think, the chip is there to prevent overcharge, to adapt to changing battery characteristics as it degrades or heats up, preventing overheating, maybe more of the things I don't know about

    So while it would work with less tech, it would likely be not as long lived and as safe, imo

    [–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

    It can actually be even simpler than that. You don't even need a potentiometer technically. That being said it's not very safe this way. If something goes wrong with the coil there is almost no warning and nothing to stop catastrophic failure.