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I sure hope all the people that are against speed cameras are the same people that support traffic calming measures like raised mediums, planters and trees, narrower city streets and lanes, dedicated and protected bike lanes, raised pedestrian crossways and crosswalks, wide sidewalks and dedicated pedestrian only zones.
Too many roadways in north America lack proper classifications, we have suburban streets designed like throughway roads, we have roads acting like full on hwys, and don't get me started on all the strodes everywhere!
Streets are desitnations. Streets are multi use and serve the local area. Shops and homes face streets, streets can have stop signs or signalized intersections. Streets have sidewalks and in some cases the full street is the "sidewalk". Streets generally do not exceed two lanes of dedicated traffic. Speed limits range from 10-40kph
Roads are throughways, roads dont have signalized intersections, instead they opt for roundabouts or off ramps where needed. Homes or shops do not face roads and driveways do not connect to roads. Pedestrian sidewalks do not run along roads, instead trails or paths may be located adjacent to a road with dedicated seperate crossing such as bridges or tunnels. Roads generally do not exceed 3 lanes of dedicated traffic. Speeds limits range from 50-80kph
And hwys are for long distant travel. Which I believe most people are accustomed too already. Speed limits range from 80-110kph
How to redesign a strode into a actual street.
Example of a actual road.
Another example of a street vs a road.
Ah, another fan of notjustbikes, I see!
I am certain that the anti-camera crew aren’t in favour of proper classification system, but I try to spread the word.
I don't like the first conversion example. There is nothing in the middle that you couldn't put on the side.
Instead of turning the middle part into pedestrian zone, I'd rather they chop off the outer lanes and extend the sidewalks, so there is more space in front of the businesses and houses where people live. Also, putting the trees on the sides instead of in the middle gives shade and sound-dampening where it is most needed.
It also means you only have to cross one two-lane crossing instead of 2 one-lane ones. Two lanes is small enough for a crossing.
As an extra, it also benefits cars, since it's much simpler having one 2-way street than two 1-way streets.