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I love science
Don't get me wrong, I love science too. But also, "only minimal anti-nociceptive effect of THC exposure was confirmed."
aka
"it turns out getting lobsters high doesnt really make them that much more chill about being boiled alive..."
So like, good on them for trying but like, whats the goal here even anyway? To ease our guilt about the whole having to kill something to eat it thing? Is it really that much better if the thing was high and didnt really know it was dying? IDK this has some pretty deep ethical holes to fall into if we're not careful. We should also all definitely be high while we discuss this...
why are we boiling them alive anyways? a knife through the brain first is standard now
Yeah especially because countries like Switzerland and New Zealand have banned the practice.
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/switzerland-lobster-boiling-banned
Restaurants can use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrustaStun for the most humane option
Why? Aren't they basically sea bugs?
Whether or not they feel pain is a huge ongoing debate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_in_crustaceans
Yes, they are, but why not minimize any possible pain? They're not going to taste any different.
The way to go is oysters. They have no pain receptors or even a cluster of nerves that could be considered a rudimentary brain. You can eat them still alive (raw on the half shell) and they're none the wiser.
i thought that was sea squirts. they eat their own brain after they pick a spot to grow
That's dope, thanks. You might like this article
oh that's 100% a "i'm 'vegan' but i miss oysters and need an excuse" article
To be honest I picked the first result. I read something along similar lines, a bit more sciencey, from a non-vegan years ago. I understand two of the lines drawn by vegans are pain and consent. But oysters cannot feel pain or consent any more than a potato.
i dunno, i remember reading some research (that i have no way of finding now) that plants scream when we cut them
Some do. Some emit smells that tell other plants to turn bitter. Some communicate and even pass nutrients through the mycelial network. So let's all agree on mushrooms maybe?
i find it hard to eat something with more sexes (or is it genders? i haven't finished that paper) than sense. not like emotionally, physically. they pass straight on through. i should just drop them right in the toilet and skip the middleman.
I have experimented on myself quite a bit with THC. It isn't a pain reliever in my experience. I have had a headache or body pain, used some, and then I was just like "fuck, that's all I can think about now."
It's great to distract from general malaise or boredom, but won't help if anything painful is actually happening.
Conversely, I'm a medical user exclusively for pain. I take 50mg twice a day and have very little effect on the mind but it stops my pain nearly completely.
that's awesome! I'm glad it is helping you ease your pain. It helps a lot with my anxiety and sleeping, but I'm a weirdo and I'm in my head a lot, so even if I'm super deep it doesn't shut off that part of my brain.
I do imagine if I was being boiled alive it would still hurt a lot, but I'd prefer to be on some strong edibles if that "had" to happen.