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[–] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

May I ask: when did you last try Firefox? There was a period during the 2010s when it has truly horrible performance, but they rolled out some major updates several years ago that greatly improved performance (though wouldn’t call some of the UI changes improvements).

Honestly, every major rendering engine is terrible in some way.

  • Blink is resource intensive and has so many non-standard APIs for the sake of Google’s version of “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish”.
  • WebKit takes 50 years to support the newest standards.
  • Gecko (Firefox) is non-modular and is limited to being used in Firefox, Thunderbird, and forks and Firefox as a result. Its performance is also somewhat worse than Chrome’s, but not noticeable for daily use.

Ultimately, I choose Firefox because its issues are the least annoying to me. I do wish its structure was more community-based and less corporation-eating-its-own-hand, but whatever. So long as Debian sees it fit to keep in its repos, I’ll use it.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 days ago

I'm a diehard Firefox user but i can instantly notice the preformance improvement when I'm using edge and chrome. I dont need my tech to be the best in class it just needs to work well which firefox does.

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Moved off Firefox this month. I was die hard Firefox user for decades. All the way back to Netscape and the original Mozilla browser with the t-Rex logo.

I tried using zen and librewolf but they both suffered the same problem. Dogshit engine.

[–] Opal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] zewm@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago
[–] data1701d@startrek.website 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

May I ask what your config was, such as distro, packaging format, and extensions were used? Also, what hardware?

Additionally, what issues specifically were you experiencing specifically? Were sites just loading slowly?

I ask because I’ve used recent versions Firefox on decently old hardware with 4 GB of RAM and 2 cores and had almost no problems. Everything rendered correctly and in a reasonable amount of time. I’d be curious to know why that isn’t happening for you.

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It’s not that it renders incorrectly so much as abysmal performance. Choppy scrolling, page elements taking a long time to load, etc.

I did a bit of distro hopping lately so it was on a few distros mainly arch and Fedora base.

Also experienced this in windows 10 and 11.