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The home appliance industry would like you to believe that gas-burning stoves are not a risk to your health -- and several companies that make the devices are scrambling to erase their prior acknowledgements that they are.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I used to be a gas girl... But it was a skill issue.

Any decent heat source works, if you know how to use it.

Most of them don't actively combust in your house.

If you have a proper exhaust, it is kinda none issue.... But how many peasants actually have exhausts... To ask is to answer.

So unless you are rich, cooking with gas is cancer.

[–] sausager@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My maga family who live in CA hate regulation and we're surprised when I told them where I live our house didn't have exhaust for our gas stove because it's not regulated. I hate this world

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Beauty of being a dense twat is that you get all the benefit of the progress done by other people, generally by dying while acting indignant about shit that could help society.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 8 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Every glass top I've ever used heated unevenly... so I agree with you, any decent heat source works, but modern stoves are not decent.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Induction stoves are the new hotness (literally and figuratively). Is that what you've used, or did you have the older (and much worse) type with glowing heating coils?

I thought electric stoves were all bullshit until I learned that "induction stove" was not just another term for what I was used to. But I've never seen one outside of fairly recent, relatively expensive renovations.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yeah induction is a totally different and in my opinion superior technology. Unfortunately, some electric stoves can look quite similar but perform very differently, which leads to confusion.

My parents are snooty foodies who badmouthed electric stoves for decades even when I explained that gas was bad for the environment. But once I showed them my induction stove they were sold and never looked back.

The only downside is they can be a bit expensive, might require electrical work, and you may need to change out some pots and pans. But for me I found it very worth it. Cooking with gas annoys me now whenever I’m forced to.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Price is coming down a lot. A cheap induction one is well within the price range of a regular one. Sometimes even cheaper.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

True. For me the main cost was the electrical wiring to bring the needed voltage to the kitchen. Which no one told me I needed until after I made the purchase. Oops.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You definitely want to look at the reviews though. When I started looking a couple years ago, the few less expensive models had really bad reviews from too small coils cooking slowly and unevenly

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My parents are snooty foodies who badmouthed electric stoves for decades even when I explained that gas was bad for the environment. But once I showed them my induction stove they were sold and never looked back.

This is/was me, and you've given me hope I will beable to adapt to induction, whenever that day comes.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I’m just trying to learn now from a recent conversion and I’m amazed at how quickly pans heat up compared to gas. I have this one pasta meal down to a science, knowing exactly what I could do while waiting for the water to boil and the skillet to heat up, but now my process is out of wack because it was so quick.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Induction stoves are really common in the UK I first got one ~10 years ago, a quick Google shows a 4 zone induction hob in B&Q (Home Depot in the US) can be had for £89, single zone portable worktop ones are around £30. The current one in my kitchen cost £479 recon (normally ~£720) super fancy

It's different to gas, I prefer it now. Having used the other terrible types of electric hobs/stoves and gas

[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Use a better search like Bing or duckduckgo next time. googol sucks and was never any good. Quit using ignorant garbage.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I'm from a time before internet search engines, and seeing bing described as better looks odd to me, i still remember it as the best porn search engine.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Induction is objectively better than every other option for anyone connected to the grid looking to buy a new kitchen stove.

Unfortunately it's one of these things that takes five minutes to explain because everyone has tried the Slumlord Special resistive stove and the general public can't tell the difference. Those five minutes are why induction uptake is pathetically low compared to how superior it is in literally every way.

Same deal with people who would still buy incandescent lightbulbs if they could just because they don't understand that technology has moved on from CFLs and to them it's all "newfangled economic bulbs that can't light for shit".

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Non-induction yes. Induction no.

Non-induction ones don't count as modern stoves, they are last century's tech.

But if you know what you are doing, the uneven heating can even be an advantage. You basically get different heat zones for free, so you can use part of the pan to brown stuff and the other side to keep things warm without burning them.

But yeah, get induction. It's the perfect technology.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except it doesn’t work with every pan. I love induction but some pans I love don’t work with it.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

True, but there's a simple fix: replace that one or two ancient pans that you still have hanging around.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Makes sense, but also no

(we have a standard flat top and a separate induction hahaha)

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm curious how cast iron pans work with induction. I feel like I'd be constantly afraid of scratching/breaking the glass on top.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Cooks great. I just started so don’t have scratches yet but I’m sure they’re coming.

Someone online recommended parchment paper Nader the pan to keep it from scratching, but that seems like a pain

But now I’m worried just as much about my few remaining non-stick pans I just tried one for the first time on my new induction stove and it wouldn’t stay 8n place. Between the lightweight aluminum and the smooth glass stove top, every time I tried to flip an egg the pan moved

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's not really an issue if you are somewhat careful. Don't slam the pan onto the glass, don't scratch it across and don't instant-heat the pan on full power (it can damage the pan).

If you want to be extra careful you can even put a thin piece of heat-proof fabric between the induction stove and the pan. Since induction heats the pan and not the stove top, that won't hurt the heat transmission.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

True but decent stainless and cast iron reduce that issue by a lot.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Hell yeah they do. I discovered this on my own.

[–] kuribo@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact that you call it glass top without specifying what you’re actually using tells me that you don’t know the difference between traditional electric and induction.

[–] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The fact that literally everyone else in society refers to an electric glass top as "glass top" and induction as "induction" tells me you're being needlessly pedantic in order to feel superior to others.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Pan issue. Try a fissler

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago

Get a good cast iron pan! I've used multiple glass tools and never had an issue :)

I use the Lodge pans, but you can pick up a used cast iron pan from a secondhand store and skip the breaking in process.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I am a gas girl.. forced to use shitty coil electric stoves for too many years, I was stoked when I moved to a place with a gas stove. Its old as hell, but my workhorse.

I can smell the gas when I preheat the oven. The exhaust vent works, but I wish it worked better. Summa isn't so bad, because I have windows open and fans going, but it's only been in the last month or so, I've been reading all this stuff about gas stoves and the dangers for health. I cook everyday.

It definitely freaks me out. We can't afford to replace a working appliance, or to switch off gas (we already have an indentured servitude relationship with the electric company). So, I'm thinking of getting a small air purifier to run on the counter by the stove before winter hits this year.

It does suck when you learn something you love is bad for your health.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're probably on that puny ~110-120 volt supply.

Electric isn't bad when there's enough of it.

I'm currently looking directly at a ~400 volt stove. (My sauna stove, not mainly for cooking, although grilling sausages in a sauna is not unheard of.) I think my cooking stove is on the same sort of high power supply though. And even the regular outlets are 240v.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Apologize for ruining the humor with pedantry but …

You’re probably on that puny ~110-120 volt supply.

Assuming this is a dig at the US, major appliances like stoves use 240v circuits. I think there are a couple possible but my new stove circuit is 50a 240v, the same as my car charger.

Induction stoves are something where you can still make fun of us though. They are rare and most are expensive. I just converted from gas to induction and none of the three places I went to even had a display model so I Could see what an induction stove looked like

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Well, yeah, because we've got twice that on stoves and 240 on regular outlets? So it's still just half of what most of Europe is using. Which would very well explain the difference in experiences.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As side note on air purifiers. You have to get them for the size of the room to get proper results. Ie something thats too small for the space is about useless. They have rating, look for that.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

You're right, they do have a rating.

I have empty space right by the stove, figure I can run it when the ovens on. We have a large one in another part of the house already, too big for the counter.