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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Damn, those winter numbers mean full off-grid is quite difficult with pure solar. A propane or diesel generator to occasionally top off the batteries would be required for winter.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

It is not remotely close to economically viable to go off grid, and the exports of solar power to the grid pay for the connection anyway.
The reason to have a battery is that it lasts through the night, or even with a smaller system, it can handle dinner time, which is the most expensive time of day to buy electricity.
Now if you live in some remote area without a grid, a generator is a way better option than a huge battery.
Maybe if you live somewhere very sunny, like Spain and especially southern parts of USA you can probably do it with a modest battery that can handle a couple of days.
In the summer we can make enough electricity on by far the most cloudy days, but in the winter, the sun can't penetrate the clouds nearly as well.
Admittedly London is south of where I live, which is close to the most southern part of Denmark, but on the other hand London is infamous for grey weather with heavy clouds.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You could probably get by with a gas generator and only run it 2-3 times/year in many areas. It's not 100% green, but it could get you off grid for a fraction of the price.

[–] Mpatch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Diesel generatorsare significantly better on fuel consumption than a gas one and diesel takes alot longer to go bad than gasoline.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Diesel generators run fine on heating oil, which is cheaper since no fuel tax and has longer shelf life.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Stabil 360 additive to fuel.

[–] WalterLego@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Power the generator with vegetable oil. There are multi fuel generators that are designed to work well with that kind of fuel. You could also use them for heating which is very useful in Northern regions where you usually need heating and electricity during winter.