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I don't even know if windows is good or not now. (lemmy.ca)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by rarsamx@lemmy.ca to c/linux@programming.dev

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I see so many people claiming that windows is crap and that's why they moved to Linux.

That got me thinking: I can no longer have an opinion in the matter. I haven't used Windows at home since 2004. I used it at work until the beginning of 2019 but someone else maintained it, since then, I haven't had the need to touch windows.

Whether good or bad, I feel I'm not as knowledgeable as I was.

Well, actually, two years ago I cleaned up and "revived" my dad's desktop which was taking two minutes to boot and about the same time to open the first app. After installing an SSD and a couple of hours of clean-up, it was as fast as new. I guess with proper maintenance it can be good enough. However, isn't it the main criticism about Linux? That you "need to know" to use it?

People complain about Linux drivers, but as far as I remember, it was quite common that new versions of Windows dropped old drivers and your perfectly good printer/scanner/video card/etc. became a paperweight. Is that still the case?

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I still have a laptop with a tiny shrunken Windows partition on it in case I need it for some reason, but I've not actually booted it since installing debian. I can't be bothered to figure out how to clean up the bloat, disarm the telemetry, avoid the online MS services, block the ads, dodge the bugs, wait for the updates, get used to all the various stupid ways the UI has changed since the win XP I was familiar with, et cetera.

Using Windows these days is just way too much work, I don't know how anyone even does it.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can’t be bothered to figure out how to clean up the bloat, disarm the telemetry, avoid the online MS services, block the ads, dodge the bugs, wait for the updates, get used to all the various stupid ways the UI has changed

And once you figure that all out, an update turns half the shit back on without telling you.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Also, Microsoft Store reinstalls the apps you uninstall almost every other time you reboot and twice if you check for updates.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Using Windows as intended by Microsoft is pretty damn easy. It becomes a chore if you try to disarm spyware, avoid the cloud, etc.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is it for me. I'm tired of swimming upstream for my privacy.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 2 points 4 days ago

Yep. The forced install of Copilot Vision was the straw for me. Linux was a steep learning curve, but worth it