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‘Liberal’ has become a term of derision in US politics – the historical reasons are complicated (theconversation.com)

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In this setting, liberals face a conundrum. How far should they maintain traditional liberal ideals, and how far should they move towards non-liberal, and potentially illiberal, ideologies if these seem more promising for the purposes of social change?

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude, relax.

The very concept of human rights is a product of liberalism as a political philosophy. You seem to support values championed by liberal philosophers, while also thinking that liberalism is basically satan. Pick a side.

I'm anti capitalist, I would consider myself a socialist but not a liberalist, but I'm nonetheless at least as influenced by liberal thought as I am by socialist thought. If you can't square that that's worrying, but I've spent enough time here.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago

The very concept of human rights is a product of liberalism as a political philosophy.

You seem to support values championed by liberal philosophers, while also thinking that liberalism is basically satan. Pick a side.

What an absolutely asinine and reductive interpretation of what I said.

I’m anti capitalist

Then you are not a liberal, by definition

I’m nonetheless at least as influenced by liberal thought as I am by socialist thought.

Yes, obviously; socialist thought is directly descended from liberal thought, it is impossible to be a socialist without being influenced by liberal thought.

If you can’t square that that’s worrying, but I’ve spent enough time here.

What a bad faith little worm comment.