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In our civilized societies we are rich. Why then are the many poor? Why this painful drudgery for the masses? Why, even to the best-paid workman, this uncertainty for the morrow, in the midst of all the wealth inherited from the past, and in spite of the powerful means of production, which could ensure comfort to all, in return for a few hours daily toil? - Peter Kropotkin (1892)
JFC - I'm talking about people that live in a village in West Africa. They own the land and work fucking hard just to survive and have never seen the inside of an office in their lives. Their lives are not bucolic fantasy, their lives are, at their core, not much different than yours and mine. They want to work less and have more and just be left alone. But they're farming millet and sorghum in literal sand, prone to the weather to dictate if they starve or not.
Or maybe you tell me more about the value of their labor and how somewhere far far in the distance someone is keeping them poor against their will and best efforts.
Ok, but why are you talking about people that live in a village in west africa? The post's original subtext, to me, is pretty clearly about people selling their labor for less than its true value to survive, while the ownership class tremendously profits. Farmers working their own land aren't being exploited (not counting interactions with the outside world that might affect them if they try to sell crops).
I'm not an expert but I imagine colonialism and such might have an impact.
I'm talking about people who farm and need labor to survive, and placing that labor in the context that sometimes you can be left alone, have relatively little direct impact from colonialism or even capitalism, and that doesn't make one's labor somehow special or magical. You can do everything right and free from most trappings of capitalism and life can still be hard and suck.
Posts like this push some socialist farm worker fantasy, as if Soviet era propaganda of smiling peasants was how things were - I've lived like that. It's not pleasant on average, which is why people leave those communities unless something specific keeps them there. It works as a method of basic survival of the species, but so does having 7 or 8 kids per woman to try and get 3 to reach adulthood so you can sell off one girl for the dowry payment.
I'm also talking about places where no French or English is spoken, where the currency they use isn't even the one for the country where they live, and none of that changes the fact that rain-fed subsistence agriculture is backbreaking labor. There's no one to blame but the Earth itself, and climate change on a long enough scale, but desertification of the Sahara has been taking place for thousands of years. Climate change is simply speeding up the inevitable, but population growth is making that worse. Trees only grow so fast, and they don't grow fast enough for a village of 20 cook fires to suddenly expand to 50 cook fires in 20 years and not impact the environment.
Whatever, we'll all end up experiencing it ourselves in the next 10 years or so anyway.