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In our civilized societies we are rich. Why then are the many poor? Why this painful drudgery for the masses? Why, even to the best-paid workman, this uncertainty for the morrow, in the midst of all the wealth inherited from the past, and in spite of the powerful means of production, which could ensure comfort to all, in return for a few hours daily toil? - Peter Kropotkin (1892)

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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I really don't understand how people read the title and read the quote from Kropotkin and think that the post is somehow anti-work. We have always had to secure the material goods of our existence whether we lived in hunter-gather societies, villages, feudalism, capitalism, etc. No one is arguing that we live in a post-scarcity Star Trek society.

The point is we shouldn't have to work for someone who owns that physical/intellectual labor and gives wages in return. That is an economic system that has outgrown its usefulness.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago

No one is arguing that we live in a post-scarcity Star Trek society.

China seems to be working hard on accomplishing it, with putting AI and robotics to better development and utilization, for the greater whole. I have my personal criticisms and if I lived there and had a vote, I would voice them, but when our society decides to come together for the greater whole, I can voice them then.