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[–] dan@upvote.au 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

underpaid relative to American citizens

The H1-B visa requires you to pay at least the prevailing wage, which is the average wage people are paid for the same position. At big companies like Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Meta, etc., people on H1-B and similar visas (E-3, H1B1, etc) have the exact same starting salary and are in the exact same salary bands as US citizens.

There's some companies that abuse H1-Bs by doing things like using weird obscure job titles and (contracting companies like Tata and Accenture come to mind), but just because some companies abuse a system doesn't mean every company should be punished.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You're not mentioning salary bands which allow the same position and responsibilities to have up to 40% variation in salary, and promotions which allow you to officially state someone is not proven to work at the same level as another individual. Ah, and the restriction on the employee most powerful salary negotiation, the typical "I got a job offer and I'm leaving unless you match the salary".

[–] greenskye@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also, you can't really move jobs either. So a H1B friend of mine was in fact underpaid for the work he was doing because actually moving to the job title he was doing would've restarted the clock on his citizenship.

[–] dan@upvote.au 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

restarted the clock on his citizenship

You can't apply for citizenship from a H1-B. You have to get permanent residency (green card) first, then be a permanent resident for 5 years.

[–] greenskye@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

It may have been his green card. I'll admit to not being intricately aware of the process. I just know he was taken advantage of due to his inability to change job titles without doing something to his efforts to eventually become a citizen.

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm not sure about other companies, but the big tech companies pay exactly the same regardless of whether you're on a work visa or not. At the company I work at, bonuses and raises are formulaic based on performance, and the performance discussions/calibrations for ratings and promotions don't take visa status into account at all (I've participated in them).

Smaller companies are less ethical, but they get a much smaller proportion of the H1-B visas.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Immigrants are also under way more pressure than citizens. Doesn't that you get the same salary when you're expected to do 10h extra per week

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It really depends on the company. I'm an immigrant myself - I was on an E3 work visa for six years, then got a green card. For me, workload and expectations weren't any different to a US citizen, and that's the case at my employer in general.

I plan projects for and and delegate work to junior employees, and I don't know or care if they're on a work visa or not. I've been in calibration meetings (to handle ratings and promotions) and the person's visa status is never discussed.