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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Lol!!!! Please know I am not angry, I am laughing at you.

Everything you said here was some cope, I think your ego and narcissism isn't worth my time, the strawman arguments in there certainly aren't.

https://www.albert.io/blog/connotation-vs-denotation-understanding-word-choice/

You were giving a denotative definition of morning originally, not a connotative one. This has nothing to do with prescribing language, but describing it. The ways we describe words can be connotative or denotative.

Dawn is when the sun rises. Morning is when you rise.

This isn't true though, morning is more than that (and most peoplewould not give this definition for morning at all). If I say "tomorrow early morning," or "at 5 in the morning" a night shift worker knows the time of day I am referencing. Further, night shift workers weren't being discussed.

You are absolutely projecting the contrarian thing.

Btw the existence of the "at" does not change the meaning from "best take it dawn than dusk." It means the same thing without the article.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You're clearly spending a lot of time trying to avoid any and all mistakes, whereas I willfully admit to mine.

You're just spouting buzzwords now, tbh.

You were mistaken. Several times. You imagined an "at" where there was none.

This isn't true though, morning is more than that

Yeah the word has more meanings. Feel free to use it however you like, and if you hit on a popular way to use it, it might break into common usage.

Shift workers use the word just like I said we did. What's not to understand?

If I say "tomorrow early morning," or "at 5 in the morning" a night shift worker knows the time of day I am referencing

Yes. Because language is descriptive, not prescriptive and they understand the context. Just like their coworkers would understand "oh shit, rough morning" when coming into work into a night shift wouldn't prompt fellow coworker to ask "why, did you have trouble getting home?" because both night shift workers would share the ssme "clock".

That's why you can literally use "literally" as emphasis, and it's perfectly acceptable.

You are absolutely projecting the contrarian thing.

Kinda weird, seeing as most of my comments I'm admitting and agreeing with you, whereas you're avoiding 90% the content I write, because you hate admitting to mistakes. I don't, and that's probably why I'm so much smarter.

Might night dear ^^

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Seems like, you, as a narcissist, need to undo your shame from your mistake by claiming I did the same thing.

The "at" doesn't change the meaning of the sentence (eg you are stupid vs you are not stupid). It isn't equivalent, and wasn't a direct quote - paraphrasing. Why did I paraphrase? Well, because I had JUST directly quoted you right above that. The section before it (iirc it was the previous sentence) was me quoting you exactly. And it was a correct paraphrase, because it didn't change the meaning of the original statement. That's why I wrote it, to emphasize the meaning of the original statement as it was written.

Because language is descriptive, not prescriptive and they understand the context.

Exactly, the context wasn't shift workers. It was times of day. You actually admit to this by saying:

I say “morning” but 11-14 is basically my morning and I’m in Northern Europe.

This established your use of the word morning to mean the traditonal daily time, and that you use "my morning" to differentiate that. Then later you changed the definition. Further, I was emphasizing for others reading this about dawn/morning and vitamin D - and already explained that in relative time, vitamin D should be taken after you've moved around, due to how it works with calcium, osteocalcin, etc. You didn't care to discuss the relative schedule though. Btw taking vitamin D when you haven't had calcium can cause issues with your parathyroid. This is a big part of why I wouldn't recommend it first thing.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/vitamin-d-and-calcium

I don't hate admitting mistakes (more projection by you), I just think you're wrong and fragile lol

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Projecting so hard.

What shame is there for me? I've admitted from the very first time you posted that quote which didn't have "at" before "dawn" that my intention was always to write "closer to" in the sentence.

So then it becomes comparing "closer to dawn" to "at dawn" and those two are different, because never was there ever an intention to say "at dawn". How do I know this? Because even in the comment I immediately reply to you, I say, "I said closer to dawn, not 'at dawn'", not realising I had indeed skipped wiring "closer" to.

I have no problems admitting to my mistakes, but you're still avoiding the fact that you claimed there is an "at" in the original one, then thinking you wrote one when you copied it, when you in fact again just skipped a word and assumed it was there, which is basically the exact same brain fart my brain did when writing it.

Who cares about some small typo? You apparently. And you call me a contrarian, despite you disagreeing with literally everything I write, even when I write I'm agreeing with you, like I wrote from the very start.

as it was written

Yeah. As it was written. But you didn't read it as it was written, you read it as "at dawn", which shows from your incessant whining that you didn't skip a word and you're a flawless infallible princess.

the context wasn't shift workers. It was times of day

So you don't think shift workers have the ability to discuss time of day? You don't think a word can be used in two different contexts? Is this honestly the first time you've even pretended to understand linguistics?

the traditonal daily time,

"MY norm is THE norm"

Kek go have some real world experience, pls.

Then later you changed the definition.

No, I used the same word to refer to a different thing. Half-jokingly, I might add, but you don't seem to have a sense of humour, so wasted words.

And just because a thing is a joke doesn't make it unacceptable use of language. Or are you trying to say I'm "not allowed to joke"? Bshh, I thought you couldn't get more prescriptive but you're just doubling down.

Further, I was emphasizing for others reading this about dawn/morning and vitamin D

No you weren't. You INSTANTLY countered my "you probably shouldn't take it at night" with "NUH-UH, YOU SHOULD TAKE IT AT MIDDAY OR LATER IN THE DAY."

Because you're a pathological contrarian who couldn't help themselves before even checking the facts. Then when I slapped sourced studies to the table, you got ashamed of having been a lil bit pretentious, and started moving your goalposts and avoiding that you've made any mistakes, ever.

While I kept agreeing with a lot of what you said, (since I'm not a pathological contrarian,) you just keep avoiding admitting to having skipped a word whole reading. Ie you're avoiding admitting to the exact thing I admitted to from the moment I noticed it.

See just how much better a person I am? ;>

I could say "the sky is blue" or "gravity works everywhere" or "the speed of light in a vacuum is fixed" and you'd still probably argue those points. Have you thought about CBT? I've a lovely therapist who I've been with for more than a year.

If you don't hate admitting to mistakes, then you admit you misread my comment and then proceeded to misread it a couple times after, when you demanded "I haven't skipped any words"

When you clearly have.

See. Me saying I said "closer to", because I genuinely believed that, as it was my intention when writing it, which is why there is no "AT" there, is there? Despite you loudly proclaiming there is. Where is it?

Enjoy your day. ;>