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Beware, another "wonderful" conservative instance to "free us" has appeared
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this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2025
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Okay, and? The whole point of the fediverse is that everyone gets a voice. It's good to see more people adopting it too, even conservatives. It'll be less of an echo chamber that way.
Let's not paradox of tolerance this place into a Nazi bar
And then in a couple years lemmy goes the way of reddit and suddenly were flooded with right wing bots and bad actors spamming lemmy with misinformstion and hate and they scream and cry whenever you try to do anything about it.
Leftists deserve our own space on the internet.
The day it happen we'll just have to defederate them, which other social networks can't.
Do you realize Reddit is a monolith platform and not defederated? The things happening to Reddit and other centralized platforms is exactly the reason why Fediverse exist in the first place. Those problems are what Fediverse is designed to solve. It's surprising to see people considering Lemmy as some kind of leftwing alternative to Reddit. It's not.
No, the whole point of the fediverse is to combat censorship from fascists.
Inviting them over there is NOT good. It'll show more pro-fascist views and fool gullible people. And the more fascist instances there are, the harder to kick those out.
"Echo chambers" don't exist except on fascist forums.
You're saying you support it turning into a Nazi bar. If you want one, then go there, instead of being on Lemmy.
All i see here is echo chambers because of lack of diversity. Do you think these crazies will respect freedom when they will get power in real life? These people hate "enemy" so much that they get pleasure from inflicting pain in them & will break law if it mean they are punishing the enemy. I joined here last week, rarely saw civil discussion or diversity in opinions.
Isn't the point of fediverse to provide an alternative to big tech where anyone can create an instance with their own rules? Its not really about having to be subject to everyones voice. Otherwise instances wouldn't have the ability to defederate.
And people as they got more familiar to the fediverse started either running their own or choosing instances that aligned with what they'd like to see and not see. So I see this thread more as people expressing what they'd like their instance to do when it comes to defederating or federating.
And if values don't align then people can switch to an instance that more closely does. So its less about voice, but having options to turn to compared to centralized sites where if you dislike the CEO, algorithm, or moderation policies there isn't much you can do other than leaving, but in the process lose access to all content and interaction.
My honest reaction exactly, and I have to say I feel like just being on lemmy for a little bit it does feel like a bit of a left wing eco chamber, which isn't necessarily that bad and it makes sense due to alot of left wing people migrating from twitter and the likes, idk it's just something I've noticed and wanted to mention
yeah but we've seen with other social media platforms what happens when the conservatives come knockin'. Once the wave of conservative boomers and social outcasts comes the grifters will follow and it's the end of the platform.
It'll be defederated and just create new echo chambers.
A perfectly valid point. We always have to protect ourselves from the barbarians at the gate anyway.
If particular instances like blahaj.zone or beehaw wish to defederate them, that makes sense. But if they aren't botting/spamming or doing things that are illegal, I don't see a point in defederating.
How about when they are pushing the right to exist for marginalized groups? Or promoting forced relocations of people, without due process?
If defined correctly, that's bad.
Conservatives are all ok with it, and promoting it. Its a core tenet.
In what way? One's person "deportation to protect a nation's sovereign borders and rule of law" is another's "forced relocation." But at the same time, one's ethnic cleansing could be to another "deportation". To some people, a marginalised group is due to an inherent minority. Another person's marginalised group would be economic class or a traditionally suppressed group such as women. (Even then to some people, they'd claim women being expected to work instead of spending time with their families is evil corporate capitalist slavery)
You'd need specific examples.
I was going to say this. I'm not even from the United States btw. That's just how the fediverse and federation works.
Yeah. The fediverse will end up having stuff we don't like on it. What matters is that people are using it.
Well this instance has already been heavily defederated.
Do we know who defederated them?
Piefed.social has. I imagine blahaj and dbzer0 and many left-leaning instances.