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[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This is blatantly false, 99% of Gnu/Linux distros actually have systemd nicely asking the processes to terminate themselves, it just doesn't take longer than ~10 seconds usually.

This meme would imply a sigkill.

Edit: the distros that don't use systemd likely don't do any such thing either, I just don't know about them.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Except on the Linux systems I've used, when I ask it to shut down, it shuts down no matter what. Windows and macOS let programs stop the shutdown process indefinitely (when shutdown/reboot are invoked the usual way).

I think that's what the meme is trying to get at.

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wish that was the case, I'll often find my Linux desktop running because the os failed to shut something down.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

poweroff and reboot work as advertised for me, but I'm running headless homelab servers and a laptop with i3. Maybe DEs/GUI shutdown is more subtle?

[–] droans@midwest.social 3 points 6 days ago

I've had containers which are locked up and won't respond to SIGKILL or any other signal. I don't think It should be possible with a regular process, though.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That would depend on the DE I suppose, on GNOME it'll show open programmes and wait 60 seconds for the user to intervene IIRC.

Still doesn't kill them though and asks them to properly terminate themselves which allows them to take care of everything.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I run i3 and headless servers, so it's poweroff or reboot for me. Always works as advertised.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kernel will happily kill processes if it's out of memory, regardless of systemd or whatever. But in general Linux first asks nicely for the program to shut down and if it doesn't comply then it's SIGKILL time.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Which IMO is a most reasonable order of operations

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm kinda sick of seeing this false information on ~~this sub~~ the linuxmemes community. It's a surprisingly common meme subject somehow

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This ain't the Linux memes com

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

ah I misunderstood you then, my bad 😅