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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Let's not forget that the energy ribbon swings by very close to Earth every 37 years or something like that, yet it seems to be a complete surprise.

Also the two ships were transporting El Aurian refugees, which opens a whole new set of questions. Refugees...from the Borg?!

I still like the movie though.

You know, the nuts and bolts of Generations just don't hold up to scrutiny, the sci fi mumbo jumbo about how the ribbon/nexus works is not well crafted and does not hold up to Trekkie "umm why didn't he just fly a shuttle into the Nexus"-ing.

But tear the skin off it with a gardening trowel and you'll find a kickass theme: Heroes cannot tolerate heaven.

Both Kirk and Picard enter the Nexus with regrets, Picard over the death of his brother and having never raised a family of his own, Kirk in choosing his career over the woman he loves. Both find themselves in an environment that offers this reality directly to them in 4k HDR, but they can't accept it, and instead choose to re-enter reality to make a difference. Because heaven ain't no place for no heroes to call home.

Though, backing up a little bit, it does boil down to two men who have chosen duty over family over and over again throughout their careers choosing duty over family again, except this time the "family" choice is presented to them a bit more vividly than usual.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Q is afraid of El Aurians, Guinan in particular. If I were Borg, I would leave the job undone and flee, too.

[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but did no one ask, "So, uh, who you running from?" Why would the El Aurians not tell them?

(Of course, the El Aurians may have been fleeing something else.)

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Maybe they were telling everybody about Borg and no one would believe them.