this post was submitted on 24 Sep 2025
406 points (98.8% liked)

Lovecraft Mythos - Cosmic Horror

1085 readers
37 users here now

H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos is a shared universe far larger and more terrifying than that of humanity, where ancient, malevolent beings known as the Great Old Ones slumber in the depths of space or time. After Lovecraft's death, the Mythos has been expanded and developed by many authors, including August Derleth, Clark Ashton Smith, and Robert E. Howard. These and many other authors have helped to flesh out the Mythos into a rich and complex Dark Universe.

Rules:


🐙 For more cosmic horror: !cosmichorror@piefed.social 🐙

💀 For more horror content: !horror@lemmy.ca 💀

🎲 For Call of Cthulhu RPG

!callofcthulhu@ttrpg.network 🎲

📅 New videogame/movie release:

https://cthulhucalendar.com/en/


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] gressen@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago (7 children)

In Herbert West: Reanimator he describes a black person with such dehumanization that I felt physically sick. I had to put the book down. Which is disappointing, because I really enjoy the writing other than the racism, but I comfort myself in knowing that he doesn't profit off his writing now.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 46 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Lovecraft was horrifically racist. Which is a big inspiration for his writings actually. There's a reason he writes horror about "strange beings nobody quite understands". He was massively scared of the unknown himself, like people with a non-white skintone or who speak in "strange tongues" that aren't English.

IIRC he wasn't really a proponent of racism through a white-supremacy lens. He just feared any culture that wasn't his own. The books are quite an interesting read if you know this btw, it explains why he chose the way he describes the eldritch horrors.

Also he named a cat Niggerman. So take that as you will.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

he calls mixed races mongrels in his books so yea...

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah he was definitely against race mixing, especially if he considered one of those races to be "scary".

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yep. But was married to a Jewish woman for 13 years. Supposedly at the end of his life it wasn't quite as egregious, although still pretty bad.

With the high-grade alien races we can adopt a policy of flexible common-sense—discouraging mixture whenever we can, but not clamping down the bars so ruthlessly against every individual of slightly mixed ancestry. As a matter of fact, most of the psychological race-differences which strike us so prominently are cultural rather than biological. If one could take a Japanese infant, alter his features to the Anglo-Saxon type through plastic surgery, & place him with an American family in Boston for rearing—without stemming him that he is not an American—the chances are that in 20 years the result would be a typical American youth with very few instincts to distinguish him from his pure Nordic college-mates. The same is true of other superior alien races including the Jew—although the Nazis persist in acting on a false biological conception.

H. P. Lovecraft to Natalie H. Wooley, 22 Nov 1934, Letters to Robert Bloch and Others 200-201

That would have been about 2.5ish years before his death. So it shows that he is, in fact, still racist towards the end but not quite as bad as he was early in his career when he was so far beyond the racism of the day that other racists had to pull him back.

I think his time in New York had a lot to do with it. However, it took a toll on his mental health so he went back to WhitefolkIngton.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I got into lovecraft around 10. As a kid with severe unchecked anxiety, his horror spoke to me in ways nothing else did. He was also my first case of death of the author. Finding out his eldritch inspiration was just "color people scary" was a world shaking thing for me as someone who couldn't understand why racism was a thing.

Having read and reread every word he put to pin, I genuinely believe he could have been rehabilitated. He comes off as the end result of a sheltered child raised to fear the world in isolation and he was very much exactly that in the historical record. His issues actively decreases when he started experiencing the world. He genuinely reads as someone who would grow to be an ally if he had a better way to be part of a community outside of his very small world.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I agree entirely. He was terrified. It doesn't excuse what he said at all but I truly believe he could have turned a corner as well.

And full disclosure, I got into him for the same reason. I get it.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I totally agree. All he needed was little of love.

FvcKNbYXgAM0a5m-4285438602

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

The dungeons and dragons dudes were akin to white supremacist.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

He was so racist, the KKK told him to chill out on his racism. Just imagine being too racist for the KKK.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

almost as absurd as a right-wing asshole killing another right-wing asshole for not being enough of a right-wing asshole.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 4 days ago

Extremely. IIRC, even other racists were concerned at the level of racism.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

The bad guy in the Shadow Over Innsmouth is race mixing, bro

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Try to guess how he named his cat?

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

Cat named [moderator removed this comment]

[–] drre@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago

this text matches my reading of Lovecraft stories (i haven't read any of his other texts, like letters)

https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Racism_in_the_Works_of_H.P._Lovecraft

my understanding is yes, he was very racist, but this racism sounds almost comically from todays perspective. but then again, I'm a white male so...