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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/6248791

Costco will now only sell Playstation and Switch, Xbox is gone. Bad sign for their popularity.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I think it's smart of them to keep all gaming products under the XBOX brand.

I don't have any issues with that, I just think that fragmenting the brand across so many different SKUs makes it tough if you're a retailer.

I suspect the next XBOX (if there is one at all) will be just like the Steam Deck, just a PC in a suit, booting into the XBOX PC app, with an optional Windows desktop.

That's more or less what the Xbox already is, just without the Windows desktop. In fact, that's pretty much what the original pitch for the first Xbox was. Obviously they don't bother with the desktop environment or the print spooler or whatever, but "PC in a suit" is basically the way they do everything. And the Switch is Nintendo's "Android tablet in a suit." I think PlayStation is still on a bespoke kernel, but I'm not sure.

The game subscription is XBOX GamePass and the cloud service is Xbox Cloud. Simple enough.

Is it simple, though? You boot up your Xbox (app) to connect to Xbox (Cloud) and play a game on Xbox (GamePass) with your friends on Xbox (Live)? That's simple?

If they were all bundled, that would be one thing. But you have to buy all of those elements individually, and there are probably different tiers of each, and it might be doable, but I guarantee you that I'd prefer not to think through it all.

I know it may be confusing but it's a transition that's long overdue. The console market as a whole is losing market share to PCs, so why not just make a PC that works like a console?

That would be pretty nice, and since Valve has already done the market research on that, it seems like an easy win for Microsoft. But then again, the "PC in a trenchcoat" is what they've nominally been doing this whole time, so who knows if the "Windows living room box" is ever going to happen.

And anyone can optionally buy their own hardware and use that as an XBOX.

I doubt they'll ever truly give users that freedom. OEMs (like ROG) sure, but I kinda doubt they're going to let people just put the Xbox app on whatever hardware they bought.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Xbox is nothing like Windows?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not visually, but under the hood it is Windows. Windows 2000 in the case of the Xbox and Xbox 360, Windows 8 (and later Windows 10) in the case of the Xbox One, One X & S, and Series X & S. Kernels, drivers, APIs, etc. are all shared with the Windows codebase.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's like saying Android is Linux "under the hood". No. They share almost nothing.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

Very much not true. Accounts from the development team call the dev process "fork and run;" meaning, they made a fork of the operating system. Yes, it diverged over time, but part of the reason that a Windows port of an Xbox game is so much easier is that they're fundamentally the same OS.

And Android is Linux under the hood. They've committed code back to the Linux branch and maintained alignment with the LTS kernel since the start, and even the Linux Foundation calls Android a distro.