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This is why whenever someone spits "liberal" out in a discussion, it just freezes my brain for a little while as I try to figure out what the fuck they mean by the word.
It's a classic example of "you keep saying that word, it doesn't mean what you think it means"
It comes off so elitist when people like you and OP act this way though. Most people don't like politics or even want to get involved. A majority of those ones that do get involved have such a baseline understanding of what their political affiliation is it's shocking. Hell, for most of my life I didn't know better either. I always considered myself a liberal Democrat, but better realized that I'm fully a progressive.
It's better to be open and supportive of people, and to talk to them about their beliefs. It goes a lot better than ridiculing then over it. You catch a lot more flies with honey, than with vinegar.
The ideological landscape could not be more topsy turvy if someone was deliberately trying to make sane conversations impossible. There needs to be some kind of grounding shibboleth that can erase all ambiguity.
You don't think someone is deliberately trying to make sane conversations impossible?
Deliberately and extensively
Yes exactly. Around here, "the liberals" are the parties on the right wing of parliament...
Same for the US, with them being on the right side of the political spectrum