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It's demonstrated over and over again, that people following a strictly ketogenic lifestyle, especially carnivore, reverse a lot of their metabolic problems, enjoy great health, feel amazing, are at lower risks for cancer....

But..Most conscientious people when discussing carnivore, always add.. "we don't know the long term effects of this diet"

That statement is absolutely true, but it also applies to every other diet as well, we know of deficiencies of certain restrictive diets, but we don't know the long-term benefits of any specific diet. Clean populations who follow only one diet are very rare now.

It's not quite a paradox, but it feels like a paradox, the people promoting carnivore are very detail-oriented and conscientious so they list the restrictions of our knowledge, but everybody else competing for People's health interests don't list the restrictions of knowledge of their diet of choice.

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[–] xep@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Industrial agriculture in all its forms, including monocrop agriculture, is terrible for the environment.

"The environment" in and of itself is more complex than just emissions. Things like the water cycle and latent heat have to be considered too. Look at sustainable and regenerative farms. Ruminants regenerate the topsoil, irrigate ground naturally, and sequester carbon in the soil. This offsets their methane emissions. Also soil health and biodiversity in particular, I suspect, is something that we don't care about enough.

FWIW, I've been learning about how to become a regenerative farmer. There's a lot of learn about in terms of how one can contribute to the good of society by improving the environment around oneself. By looking for a plot for a farm, I've learned that there are laws here for land that can be used to farm crops, and land that cannot. A lot of that land can however support grazing animals.

On an aside, on the topic of "meat farming" vs plants, we should also consider essential amino acid yield and nutrient density when doing environmental impact assessments, and not just crude protein yield. Otherwise it's not really a fair comparison.