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Mine attempts to lie whenever it can if it doesn't know something. I will call it out and say that is a lie and it will say "you are absolutely correct" tf.

I was reading into sleeper agents placed inside local LLMs and this is increasing the chance I'll delete it forever. Which is a shame because it is the new search engine seeing how they ruined search engines

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Thinking of llms this way is a category error. Llms can't lie because they dont have the capacity for intentionality. Whatever text is output is a statistical aggregate of the billions of conversations its been trained on that have patterns in common with the current conversation. The sleeper agent stuff is pure crackpottery they dont have a fine control over them that way (yet) machine model development is full of black boxes and hope-it-works trial and error training. At worst is censorship and political bias which can be post trained or ablated out.

They get things wrong cofidently. This kind of bullshitting is known as hallucination. When you point out their mistake and they say your right thats 1. Part of their compliance post training to never get in conflict with you 2. Standard course correction once a error has been pointed out (humans do it too). This is an open problem that will likely never go away until llms stop being schastic parrots, which is still very far away.