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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I don't agree. It's not like a case of the Democrats holding the Republicans hostage over an extreme measure of some sort. The Republicans basically did no negotiation at all. The bill proposed was so horrendous as to force a number of Democrats to hold hard. We all know if Republicans had budge just a little bit they would have passed this thing. So no I don't agree this distorts the truth, this is the truth the Republican shut it down. It was on purpose. This was the plan.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Besides, Republicans do this shit every time Dems are passing a spending bill.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

It’s a fair point.

Prior to Trump, every time a Republican president took power they would make a little speech about how “now it’s time for unity” and look sideways across the aisle at the Democrats.

With Trump that speech was more like “our political opponents, who are subhuman, can eat my fist and die.”

[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The part that I find disingenuous is the argument that the Republicans control every branch of government and that's why the shutdown is their fault. The shutdown is their fault, but not for that reason.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I understand your point, but you kind of argued against yourself here:

but they have already modified the funding earlier with the BBB without getting Democrat approval, so the Democrats rightly don't approve of continuing with that budget.

Essentially, Republicans used their majority to make changes without Democratic approval or negotiation. Now they've reached a point where they actually need that approval or negotiation to continue. They could easily take out the changes they made unilaterally earlier and pass this. Instead, they're playing the blame game saying "we can't pass this ourselves, we need Democrats to vote for it."

That'd be like if I broke into your house, stole your TV, then said "I just need you to sign this document saying everything in your house is as it should be" and then blamed you for not signing.

[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago

I think you may misunderstand what my argument is. I don't disagree with any of what you said there.