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Yes. But don’t understate the shit the Soviets were doing.
No need to. The crimes of the Soviets don't justify the crimes of the CIA, or make them any better.
That's some serious knee-jerk whataboutism. You should see a doctor about that.
Yes indeed, everything that strays from the dogma at hand is whataboutism. Historical perspective, nuanced details, everything. To say the CIA is bad implicitly implies everyone else was good.
Fucking what
Literal "I like cake "why do you hate pop tarts" moment.
Yes, literally. Except that cake and pop tarts are made of the same ingredients.
Shoo, troll, shoo! Out from under my bridge!
The river is flowing too fast for them to come up with any good riddles, just frantic screeching while trying to swim against the current
Thanks for the name calling. I am educated now.
Can you not have more than one thought in your head at any given time? Why would stating that CIA is bad imply that everyone else was good?
When only one drum is allowed to be beaten it makes it seem like only one drum is allowed to be heard.
Nobody is forbidding talk about the atrocities of the KGB, though. Have you considered you're just perhaps a little jaded by .ml and just need to chill?
I assure you, based on the responses to my initial comment (and the copious down arrows) that NO we can not talk about the KGB. It’s the CIA alone in the world f’ing up nations. That is the narrative. Do not look at a bigger picture.
Nope. The down arrows to your comment are due the sheer insanity of it. You're saying that every criticism of the CIA has to include a disclaimer saying the KGB is also bad or you're supporting it. You're completely and utterly out of your mind.
Nope. Didn’t say that at all. What I said was the CIA criticism -and it’s justified criticism- never carries with it any criticism of the Soviets, who were doing very similar shit. And for some reason that just pisses people off.
No, you did pretty explicitly say that.
Quote me
I constantly talk about Soviet crimes on here though, including on this very comm.
I’ve been hearing about CIA atrocities for decades. They’re real, they’re ongoing, they’re something people should know about. But most folks who dwell on the CIA never ever look into the other side of the Cold War, the KGB, the Soviet Union, and all the equally heinous shit they did. It’s like they didn’t exist and the CIA did its deeds out of perverse fun & psychosis. It was decades of covert “war” between two competing superpowers. Acknowledge that there were two sides and they both engaged in covert war activities.
So you're saying you support DINA, the secret military police of Pinochet? Wow. Unbelievable.
How’d you guess? You so smart!
Thanks, I am.
Nothing in this is giving other shadow governments a break here.
I think it's great to point out the crimes of the CIA because they are popularised so much in western media, go on Netflix and look at action movies and TV shows, you'll be able to find a good number which feature the CIA and them being the "saviours"
Being the saviours, often by running amok all over the place (and blowing half of it up). Which has now been normalised, when the police doing the same (in movies, still) in their city at least get a vague reprimand.
"But... but.. but..."
Just take the L, dawg. There are pleny of other days in the week to be rightfully critical of other countries.