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[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Consider an example of a women, who does not work but raises childern and perform other chores to support her husband.

She is quite important in contribution to the society, but when we talk just about working people, we overlook her.

And I am sure there are many such people who are critical for the function of the society, but do not "make money" (i,e wage labor nor even owning capital for that matter)

This is why, IMO, this distinction of "people who work" is counter productive. Everyone should be able to live without poverty.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

She is quite important in contribution to the society, but when we talk just about working people, we overlook her.

...even then, since her contribution is to her own household should that marriage collapse society decides that not only is she owed a share of their produced assets to date but also a share of his future production for her part in enhancing it to date (alimony), including the requirement that he must continue to produce at that level at a minimum (aka alimony is based on what a judge believes you can earn, not what you actually are earning). Sometimes this also includes a share of any future retirement income as well.

Everyone should be able to live without poverty.

Ultimately, what you would consider living without poverty requires the labor of some number of people to maintain, and eventually the question of why they do that labor for people who don't do that labor will be asked, by them if not by you. Usually the answer is that those people are doing other labor which benefits the first group, usually abstracted out to some generalized representation of debt (aka money).

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

a women

I will never understand why this particular error is so common, yet it seems no one ever makes the similar mistake "a men" when referring to a single man.