We have also not abandoned many systems many times, that's not an argument. Show me the effect and disruption. I'm not against it, just right now there isn't much there.

You can say she was the head of that flotilla and without her it would be at least much smaller and you are right, but in this case, considering what Israel did to them and there is still a lack of any real effects.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's incredibly hard to prove things like this so if you don't believe it you don't, but I don't think the effects are just meant to be directly bringing food to Gaza. If that were the only way to measure it you'd be right. But the only thing which could possibly stop Israel is strong political pressure from the West and we are getting closer to that, the world is angry about it in a way they weren't before. Even Germany, the most hard-line Israel supporter is changing its stance. These massive protests in Italy wouldn't have been like this otherwise. Yeah maybe I'm wrong because these things are nebulous and slow but that's how activism is and I think those things are real changes.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am thinking of the political effects. I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be any after what they did to her and others on the boats.

But on the other hand, the world has stood by for more than half a century of torture of Gazans, so it shouldn't be surprising.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be any after what they did to her and others on the boats.

This stuff takes longer than a news cycle, that was two days ago.

But on the other hand, the world has stood by for more than half a century of torture of Gazans, so it shouldn't be surprising.

Agreed.