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The average person also doesn't care about their own right to free speech or their right to bodily autonomy or agency over their own lives.
There's people out there that jumped at the chance to have an ID chip put under their skin and to have a QR code associated with all their identity info.
People don't realize the threat of centralized supreme authority that's accountable to no one. And it's really sad.
I get downvoted for being in favor of free speech, because I bring up free speech rights whenever someone says something bigoted. If you don't support the free speech rights of the people you hate the most then you're against free speech. Censoring a bigot is only going to make them double down on their beliefs. But reaching out and having a civil conversation with a bigot can make them realize that the people they hate are going through the same problems they are.
Everyone gets fucked on their taxes, everyone is getting a lower wage than what their employer could give, everyone is paying more rent than they should, everyone is paying a higher interest on their debts than they should.
You're not getting downvoted for protecting freedom of speech lol. Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you're entitled to having every platform ever politely entertain your opinions. It protects you from the government and that's it. There's nothing else. If you express a racist opinion and people go after you in the comments they're completely within their rights to do so. If you roll up at that point and try to defend them... Well, you're not defending freedom of speech are you? They already said what they were going to say freely. At that point you are quite literally defending a bigot and asserting that they should be able to say what they want without consequences.
I'm not going to express any racist opinions, not now, not ever. It's not about that.
People should be allowed to say what they want as long as it's not illegal. If you don't like what they're saying, you don't have to look at it.
No, that's just completely unreasonable. Nobody should have to be inconvenienced to make room for opinions that go against a healthy society. Bigots are not and hopefully will never be entitled to inject themselves into spaces they're not welcome. Nobody is stopping them from showing up most of the time but you're crazy if you think everyone should feel obligated to treat them with respect. You're not just automatically owed any level of decorum because you have an opinion and decided to share it with others. I dont want to end up like the UK locking people away for saying an offensive word but I also absolutely refuse to make room for racists and pretend that their views matter. Because they don't.
Racists are free to have their opinions and everyone but the government is free to shit on them as much as they want as long as there's no calls for violence etc. Society can and should regulate itself and chasing ignorant bigots back under their rocks to die is something we can all work towards. If they fester then we lance the boil eventually. It's whatever. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna ever make room for their ugly, small, pathetic and worthless hate without telling them where they can shove it.