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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Got it. You just want to keep making the same point over and over again. I've tried to address it a few different times, and you're not into it. Okey dokey.

Final thoughts:

Ok, so she didn’t say “Russia’s the good guys”. Once again you are just openly making up fake quotes to spread disinformation.

“AOC / Bernie are the bad guys” than

Damn, you just cannot stop making up false quotes.

You got me lol. I went back and edited the quotes to hyphens, and replaced the AOC and Bernie thing with the exact words she said. Hopefully you are content now? Maybe not.

She regards them in general as behaving reasonably in the war and the West as behaving unreasonably

Oh, did she say that? Oh, no, of course not, you’re just once again making up a false thing to claim about her that she never said. More disinformation from you, CIA agent.

Heh. An example, from https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/the-reckless-brinkmanship-with-russia-just-keeps-on-escalating-73e514d99fe5

I wrote just the other day that Biden’s authorization for limited strikes on Russian territory with US weapons would immediately be followed by a push for even more escalations with strikes deeper into Russia, and here we are. Every time the warmongers get one escalation, they immediately start pushing for another.

There is a limit to how many escalations Russia will tolerate before taking drastic action against NATO to re-establish deterrence credibility, and nobody really knows exactly where that limit is. They seem bound and determined to find it however, and when they do we may already be on an irreversible free fall toward nuclear armageddon.

There's also stuff like this, where she has this whole revisionist history where Russia has every right to start slaughtering members of some random sovereign nation nearby to it as long as it makes sure to tell people in advance (which, of course, they didn't, but that's a separate issue), but Ukraine is trying to start World War 3 at the behest of Western powers if they fight back.

As we discussed last year, the terrifying thing about the west’s pattern of continually escalating against Russia every time it doesn’t get a nuclear ICBM in the kisser for the last escalation naturally incentivizes Russia to attack NATO directly in order to re-establish its credibility for deterrence. So far Russia has been content to respond to NATO’s escalations by just tearing into Ukraine with greater and greater ferocity, but if the western empire keeps interpreting every time Russia doesn’t attack NATO forces directly as a sign that it’s safe to keep escalating, at some point Russia’s going to have to hit NATO.

Ukraine doesn't "have to" destroy refineries or military aircraft inside Russia, simply because their apartment buildings and fruit markets with their corresponding people inside keep blowing up. That's "escalation." But Russia might "have to" start World War 3 if people don't take seriously their God given right to keep blowing up fruit markets.

You know, the anti-war perspective.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Got it. You just want to keep making the same point over and over again. I’ve tried to address it a few different times, and you’re not into it. Okey dokey.

Glass houses mate; all you've done is continuously restate your argument that the fact she holds views you don't agree with is evidence she's actually an agent of the great Russian conspire to infiltrate and subvert our righteous Western society.

I went back and edited the quotes to hyphens, and replaced the AOC and Bernie thing with the exact words she said.

Yeah, and now it doesn't actually back up your point.

Hopefully you are content now? Maybe not.

Are you going to finally stop making up quotes?

Heh. An example, from

So she didn't say that; once again your argument relies on outright making up disinformation about her.

Russia has every right to start slaughtering members of some random sovereign nation nearby to it as long as it makes sure to tell people in advance

So no, you're not going to stop making up things she never said. So no, I'm not content; stop spreading disinformation.

Ukraine doesn’t “have to” destroy refineries or military aircraft inside Russia, simply because their apartment buildings and fruit markets with their corresponding people inside keep blowing up. That’s “escalation.” But Russia might “have to” start World War 3 if people don’t take seriously their God given right to keep blowing up fruit markets. You know, the anti-war perspective.

At no point was this discussion ever about whether her opinions are correct or not, and yet here you are, arguing at length about them. Which makes sense, because to you, there's no difference between being wrong and being a Russian agent, you fundamentally don't believe people can honestly disagree with you, even if they're wrong. You are a McCarthyist, plain and simple.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Brain is a well known ragebaiter in the feddiverse

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So I see lol

IDK why I got taken in by it, I like to think I'm usually pretty good at disengaging but for some reason he got me

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Because you know I'm right, lol

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You were being completely reasonable and brain in in the gutter was just trolling.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You people really cannot accept the idea of people disagreeing with you. How are they being reasonable when they are repeatedly making up lies out of whole cloth? What exactly have I said that makes me "trolling", but them "completely reasonable"? Oh right, nothing, you just already agree with them and have convinced yourself that trolling is when anybody tells you you're wrong.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You have simply become infamous.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Brain really just comes to rage bait, their comments and modlog say as much. Their active time seems to mostly be around office hours Moscow, but that could be a coincidence.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago

Nah, it's just one guy who's been following me around since I said Kamala Harris isn't better on Gaza six months ago

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Oh hey, you're back to stalking me around. Have you not gotten enough bans for it yet? You've been doing it for over six months now.