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I'm sorry, but the "green" burgers aren't burgers. It's the same like calling margarine butter.
I don't mind if a meat-free burger is called a burger, as long as they make clear there's no meat in it. "Meat-free burger", "vegan burger", I think that's fine.
That's why they're called veggie burgers, or are you just unfamiliar with how language works? Would you accept a glass of body milk with your breakfast?
They tend to advertise very heavily they are not meat, because they want to be found -specifically by people looking to purchase things that are not meat. Claiming there's some form of "trickery" afoot is high horseshit
Yeah "green" burgers don't involve torturing sentient beings.
lol only torture is your anthropomorphism
Non-human animals with brains and central nervous systems are sentient. Your anthropocentrism is showing.
Yes they do. The poor beings that have to eat that crap.
grow the fuck up
Plants are sentient they feel pain.
Citation needed.
It wasn't until the 21st century that we showed fairly conclusively that fish can feel pain. So it seems very unlikely that we have strong evidence that plants do.
Unless you are arguing we shouldn't have had compassion for fish and their suffering up until very recently I think your point supports mine. We do know they respond to stimuli and some root systems form neural like structures so it seems probable. Imagine hooking up pain and suffering tolerance to science and thinking you are a good person ha. Could you even?
😑 so torture a bunch of alfalfa, or a bunch of alfalfa and a much larger more sentient cow as well?
I just stated a fact. I didn't share my opinion on veganism. You just established that you aren't against the torturing of sentient beings and that you think life dying in order to support other life is a good thing. That you do infact see some life as inferior to other life. I just wanted to point out your extremely poor choice of words lol
Wow. This is the state of our education system.
Wow.
Let's say plants can suffer:
Therefore: A vegan always produces less suffering than a vegetarian or omnivore.
And a fruitarian produces less suffering than a vegan , but why stop there?
im not sure how far your understanding of biology goes lil bro
They are not, they don't even have a central nervous system.
Vegan Bullshit Bingo #22
Plants have feelings too
Edit: Getting downvoted for scientific facts.
Manches der Sachen in der Bullshit Bingo sind wirklich Bullshit seitens der Veganer*innen. Sind nicht viele, aber da sind zwei, drei Sachen.
Als fast Vegetarier*in kann ich schon gut nachvollziehen warum Leute vegan werden. Aber es halt auch einiges an Misinfo seitens Veganer*innen z.B. die Sache mit dem Lab, wo Statistiken aus der USA verwendet werden obwohl in Europa eher künstliches Lab gängiger ist.
Ich würde auch nie behaupten, dass alle Veganis immer die Wahrheit sagen. Aber welche Misinfo meinst du denn genau? Über Lab-Statistiken weiß ich nichts, steht das da auf der Seite?
Es sind halt so manche Sachen die halt oft falsch von irgendwelche Moralapostel wiedergegeben werden. Da wird z.B. bzgl. Käse gerne gesagt, dass Kälber geschlachtet werden nur um an tierisches Lab zu kommen um Käse herstellen zu können obwohl bei ca. 80% aller heimischen Käsen künstliches Lab benutzt wird, da diese günstiger und leichter zugänglich ist.
Auch wird gerne gesagt, dass alles Milch aus der unfreiwilligen Schwängerung von Kühen kommt obwohl es reichlich Biobauernhöfe gibt, die keine erzwungene Schwangerschaft machen sondern einen Bullen mit den Kühen auf die Weide stellen sobald die Kühe wieder brünstig werden. Die Zeit zwischen Gebären und Brunst variiert von Tier zu Tier. Bei Kühen ist es etwa vier Wochen. Ziegen zwei Wochen. Schafe sechs Monate.
Wer tierische Produkte gänzlich meiden will, hab ich mit keine Probleme, solange man nicht irgendwelche Peta oder ALF Argumente benutzt die gar nicht stimmen.
Gegen Vegetarismus gibt es kaum Gegenargumente wenn Vegetarismus gewissenhaft eingehalten wird. Gibt aber genug Vegetarier*innen, die sich nicht bewusst sind welche Firmen bei Molkerei und Eierprodukte unnötiges Tierleid verursachen.
The same boomers whining about "vegan burgers" also whine about margarine being called margarine instead of butter, all while hating real butter for being "hard to spread and tasting the same".
You're supposed to leave the butter out of the fridge. And tastes really good, unlike margarine.
But margarine literally isn't butter? I've never heard anyone complain about that. If anything, the opposite. Don't hand someone margarine when they asked for butter.