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Well, both, really.
Make sure they know you won’t be buying their process anymore because of these policies.
If people actually do this, they would find out next quarter
But everyone loves talking big but keeps using these corpos products
I, for one, have never used any of their shit.
Don't project.
I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down
Correct.
One guy standing tall is cute and all but that'd not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message
Be the change you want to see.
I am already balls deep, chief.
Helping family and friends while shilling it online.
We got min 5 years best case scenario still
If you’ve used Android, they did the same thing and removed ICE-spotting apps.
At least you can still easily side load with Android, for the time being.
Which is why I stay away from Google's products too.
What do you use?
I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver.
A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it.
Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me.
I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone
I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users.
Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products.
Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere.
Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc.
Still gives money to Google though.
From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales.
That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware.
While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet.
Oh that's fantastic.
Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup?
Obviously you won't have any Android in there, including Android ROMs which are based off of AOSP, as Google is just as, if not more, evil than Apple, and any project based off Google's OS is inherently unethical.
Are you're using a Fair Phone? If not, what ethical phone are you using?
And for your OS, is Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch?
A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it
Yeah, and I didn't pay for it. I don't use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn't profit and I don't use any of their services, so, they don't continue to.
Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I'm good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology.
Buying used is excellent
Your argument seems to be "all things that aren't perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any." This is obviously silly. We're talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing.
Cause using AOSP benefits Google's ability to limit their app restrictions.
Tell me you don't understand open source without telling me you don't understand it...
You give off some real "Well achkshuslly" enlightened centrist vibes here.
Using Google products is implicit support for Google.
Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context.
So tell me you didn't actually read the comment thread without telling me.
Oh no, we can't have ethical smartphones so we are forced to fund the worst corporations that exist 😢
I guess I'll just go buy an overpriced piece of tech crap locked in a shitty proprietary environment that doesn't respect any of my rights...
Uh, that would have been a good argument back when flagship models didn’t cost more than the latest iPhones. Unless you’re buying something other than Samsung though, you’re paying more than $2k for something that soon won’t even be able to side-load apps.
The gap between Android and iOS is closing as fast as Google can build the wall around their garden.
The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users.
That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting.
What makes you think I buy flagships?
Also who cares about their gap, Linux phones are the next stop now.
How about you just don't act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone.
No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like "company Y is worse".
Which is absurd because X and Y don't care about any of you.