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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This happens even more so in Europe, because we no longer have an anti-EU, anti-NATO left. The entire mainstream left has capitulated to Brussels and jumped on the Ukraine war bandwagon. So the right wing has stepped in to fill that void with anti-EU rhetoric, anti-war rhetoric and opposition to conscription, which is making them very popular.

And it's not hard to see why people are receptive to this tactic. The AfD is saying "we don't want our boys to die for Ukraine, if Merz and co want to die for Ukraine let them go to the front" and the vast majority of normal people can't help but agree with them. The left has totally dropped the ball on this. Instead all we hear from the mainstream left "is Russia bad, Putin bad, Ukraine protects democracy".

All the warmongering rhetoric coming out of Brussels and the European governments, all of the cutting of social spending, welfare and public funds, and raising the retirement age, just as the establishment parties in Germany are pushing to re-instate conscription, even though it is hugely unpopular, and giving billions to Ukraine while telling us that there is no more money for the welfare state, is massively pushing people toward the "populist" right.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hey now, we exist. And the funny thing is, none of our right wing parties can fill the anti nato, anti defense spending, anti conscription void anymore.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm talking mainly about Germany. Die Linke really fucked up on all of this. Not only are they still way too pro-EU, haven't done or said anything about the obvious electoral rigging that the EU has been involved in in Romania and Moldova, or how the EU sabotages and plots against European governments that oppose the EU's drive to war with Russia, but they themselves have also gone along with the disgusting demonization of Russia.

They consistently vote along with the establishment parties for sanctions on Russia and sending money to the Kiev regime. How are people supposed to believe them when they say that they want to protect social programs and welfare in Germany when they are literally helping to sabotage Germany's economy by going along with the self-harming sanctions, ignoring the act of war against the German economy that was the destruction of the Nordstream pipelines, and sending German taxpayer money to the most corrupt regime in Europe?

Their behavior reminds me of the WWI social democrats who voted along with the bourgeois parties for war funds. They may nominally oppose sending weapons to Ukraine but all their rhetoric legitimizes the weapons deliveries by pretending like Russia is somehow the bad guy there and not NATO who started the proxy war. Their official party "NGO" (actually government funded) "Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung" has also been involved with pro-imperialist forces in Latin America and Ukraine. They are very much a pro-imperialist left.

Almost nobody in Germany likes them anymore. Right wingers think they are too "woke" while most people who might be inclined to support a populist leftist platform think they are sellouts.

And BSW who are more anti-imperialist, more anti-war and more EU-critical (though they have their own huge problems on other subjects) did not make it past the 5% hurdle last elections. There are good indications that they probably got cheated out of a lot of votes and they are involved in lawsuits right now to recount, but for the time being they are out of the equation, and the media has tried very hard to sweep them under the rug and not give them publicity except when they compare them with the AfD.

I'm not talking about niche voices and parties. Yes, we do have the DKP who are all around pretty good, probably a lot like your party except not as successful. But the point is that the only voice you are likely to hear on mainstream TV rallying against the conscription proposal and against involvement in the Ukraine war is the AfD. That is the only one that the "normies", the average people who watch TV and listen to the radio are likely to hear. And that is a disaster.