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In Argentina, President Javier Milei has screwed the economy up so badly he needs a $20 billion bailout. That’s because his “free market” economics don’t actually work.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 82 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Libertarians do care about freedom .... their own personal freedom ... and it doesn't matter to them if it costs the freedoms of others

It's a selfish mentality where they believe that they should have all the ultimate freedom to do whatever they please, regardless if it hurts, degrades or destroys anyone's or everyone's freedoms.

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Most of the self professed 'libertarians' that I have met are basically people who think they will be one of the warlords when the fall comes. They are of course sadly mistaken.

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The top three priorities of a true libertarian are I, Me, Mine.

All of the self-styled "libertarians" I know are simply looking for an excuse to not pay taxes.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 days ago

Don’t forget they also want it to be legal for men aged 40+ to fuck teenagers!

[–] Alienmonkey@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In the before times (Trump, COVID, Harambe) Libertarians believed in the Non Aggression Principal or NAP as it was commonly referred to.

After the tea party and preperheads co-opted the libertarian imagery, it seems to have long since been forgotten.

But initially, that ideology was one of not using coercion to rule. Not restricting behavior or actions as long as NAP is not violated. Yes excess taxes are bad but also stay out of my bedroom and my non-binary neighbors garden. You want a coal plant cool, BUT if it is spewing crap into the air that we breath, it violates NAP and not allowed to operate.

Personally, I believe some of the ideals have merit but they require people to not be shit and that seems way too hard an ask. There are other ways to govern and maintain personal freedom not at the expense of others.

As a fun read Dr. Jo Jorgensen (she/her) was an interesting libertarian candidate years ago and huge contrast to what we see in the pork chop sideburns guy from Argentina. A long way from what could have been. They forgot her faster than the NAP.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 days ago

You want a coal plant cool, BUT if it is spewing crap into the air that we breath, it violates NAP and not allowed to operate.

Most of the libertarians I've met don't seem to believe that sort of thing. They might accept that punching someone is bad, but something complex like pollution they don't accept.

"I should be free to dump my garbage on my property! It's mine!"

"Yeah, but then you pollute the river and everyone down stream suffers"

"...it's my property!"