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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No. Under the liberalism → fascism model, this would be late liberalism, early fascism. It's where we are now.

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, because in the past 150 years we didn't have liberal democracies match these criteria and it being considered "business as usual".

Nationalism? That's the main way liberals distract from class and enforce unity of the people's.

Mass media control? Yeah, mass media controlled strictly by private capitalists who always spread a handful of narratives that only serve to reinforce the dominant ideology and never going against it.

Common enemyism? Just look at geopolitics for 0.001s

Rampant sexism? Women were the property of men with no voting rights for a long time under liberalism, with fierce opposition to women's suffrage.

And so on and so on. Also liberalism -> fascism model isn't real, else every country would have gone fascist already. Fascism is a tool for a specific kind of situation (economic crisis + worker militancy threatening capital existentially), but often it isn't needed and electorialism can be preserved which is the defining feature of liberal democracies. Besides, under crisis there's nothing stopping a democratic liberal democracy from committing atrocities fascists would to save itself and the system.