cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37367499
This is building consent for a US war on Venezuela.
Nobel war prize more like, considering the people they award this to.
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2025
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Maria clearly doesn't understand how authoritarians work. They can never be placated or satisfied. There are no small victories to give them to keep them happy. The more you give them, the more that they demand.
Isn't that the reason she's trying to reestablish democracy in Venezuela, to get rid of an authoritarian leader she knows can't be satisfied?
A fake democracy where she will let the usa define the policies and profiting from venezuela oil
You think she's goading Trump on to see if he supports her over her opponent?
No, I think she's trying to flatter Trump to make sure the US still supports a democratic transition in Venezuela. Trump doesn't need to be goaded into not liking Maduro, even if they're both authoritarian lovers
have you seen how Murica "supports democratic transitions" around the world?? you can't possibly be this naive
I'm not Maria Machado
yet you have no issues pretending to justify her behaviour?
I answered a question with what I think she does when she's tweeting??
ok, so either she wants the usa to install her (or someone close) as a puppet regime or she is too stupid to understand that
either way we are both speculating and your “I'm not Maria" makes no difference
Yes, we are both obviously speculating. But you accused me of being naive about the US and it's role in democratic transitions as an answer to my speculation of her tweet. I don't think you read what I wrote especially close or you wouldn't be this confrontational. 🙄
so you get to speculate for free but we cannot challenge your speculation because, at that moment, it's not yours, it's whomever you placed the speculation on?
by the way, you did not even clarify you were speculating, you outright stated her position
Feel free to "challenge" what I think about her reasoning.
See, you are not reading before answering, I even start the sentence with I think. Usually one does not need to put up a disclaimer when commenting on a forum..
This is also the reward he apparently coveted most. Frankly she might be doing this just not to be directly targeted by him negatively.
I have no idea, but i wouldn't want to be the person who beat Trump for this award, the dude is not afraid to kill civilians in cold blood.
He only coveted the award because Obama won one. Nothing more to the story. After Obama handed him his ass at the White House Corespondent's Dinner, it was game on.
If you haven't seen that, have a quick look at history being made. Only reason Trump ran.
I would, I would rub it in his face from the deck of a ship in the gulf as USS turrets turn to watch me float by.
Respect.
Trump likes communists and socialists who flatter his ego just fine, just look at his boy trip to N. Korea. Maduro's problems are 1: he didn't do that and 2: Trump is gagging to invade someone
Aside from his strong friendship with Jeffery Epstein, I don't think Trump liking or disliking ever factors into his decisions. I think everything is purely transactional with him.
Was transactional, and you could bet on how he would act. Now grandpa does as he's told. Not being funny. His dementia has been sliding off the cliff since '21 or '22, he's very near free-fall.
Look at the general's meeting and his UN address. He's fucking gone.
At this point I'm surprised his handlers let him speak in public. How long can they sustain that and what comes next?
That have nothing to do with trump omg the US is drolling on venezuala's oil for the last 3 decades.
Perhaps she's not interested in democracy beyond using it as a vehicle to get herself in the driver's seat.
bingo
Idk, pretty much the only two things I know about her are:
She opposes Maduro, and Maduro certainly doesn't want any form of democracy: he used his power arrest opposition and election officials right before the results were called last time. Official charges were terrorism.
She won the prize that Trump wanted.
So she sounds good to me.
Hell the only thing I know about her is that she's flattering a fascist dictator and and seems to be hinting around asking said fascist dictator to invade her country. Sounds pretty fucking abysmal to me.
Oh that's not the only thing:
The international sanctions lead to widespread hunger in her country. She's evil.
He's getting played, like every other deal he ever makes.
Payed*
I'm a consequentialist, hard to say if Mad's regime would survive overnight if it meant war with the USA, but certainly can't be any worse than leaving him in charge.
The woman supported sanction that lead to widespread hunger in her own country
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/venezuela-un-expert-calls-human-rights-not-charity-end-hunger-and
Hitler before the popular front innit? Anticommunists always end up supporting the weirdest people lmao
Ah yes I remember when Hitler came into power by removing Joseph Stalin. /sarcasm
It's not a strange stance to hardline on that leaders should be democratically elected and never serve more than 2 terms.
Oh it's so so could be worse.
Yes, it could be so much worse with Madorko in power, at any moment, it could also be so much worse with any other absolute leader in power. There are no different levels of evil at play here that we need to be worried to the point of leaving him in power just to be safe. So, Venezuelans better get to playing musical chairs until their government lands on a real democracy.
Let me guess, the "real democracy" will sell the oil industry to the USA.
Idgaf where the sell or buy to and from. Right now the USA's in a pretty shitty state, I think I'd rather they didn't, but that sort of whataboutism to defend dictatorships is just Tankie-ism.
EDIT: Didn't Maduro offer to sell his counrty's natural resources to the USA in return for recognizing his victory?
*retard you mean
The irrepairable brain damage in a simpleton starts with: First, the CIA are part of team "good guys". Next the simpleton does not notice the 100% corelation between simpleton understood democratic leaders and moderate opposition parties forming pro CIA policies, and simpleton understanding of autocratic leaders with extremist parties who oppose CIA policies.
Selling PVDSA to Chevron is only a good idea for someone who could have the power to broker the deal and get a nice bribe to get Chevron the best deal possible instead of the people of Venezeula getting the best deal possible. Chevron will simply have a supremacist advantage in bribery power.
I'm having a hard time parsing this. Are you implying democracy is bad because the Venezuelan people have more bargaining power under a dictatorship?
Just because the CIA tells you an election is rigged, because and only because they lost at rigging it, doesn't actually mean that there is no democracy. Similar to Trump 2020 complaints. Narco terrorists that campaign on gifting PVDSA to the US is not that much of a shock. The corrupt CIA outcome being the only democratic outcome is how every NATO country operates.
Would democracy in the US be stronger if Trump had awaited all of his trials in military prison, or had fallen out a window? If Christozionist establishment didn't make Charlie Kirk a Protestant saint? Establishment definitely exterminates speech they don't like, and more of that happens in US than elsewhere. Since the CIA does not love Venezuelans, exterminating CIA traitor speech is more democratic than not doing so.
Repeating the first step, The CIA/US empire are not on the "good guys team". Everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie, but especially commentary on any election results they don't like. You cannot proceed to enlightenment without getting past the first step.
It just seems like Maduro having his opposition and many members of election staff arrested before the results are announced isn't a thing that happens in a fair democracy.
And that's not by the account of the CIA, it's by the account of Maduro and his administration.
Traitorous CIA stooges getting arrested for their obvious treason being complained about by CIA and their NGOs doesn't make exterminating traitorous scum "undemocratic". During 2020 DNC administration, continuing to act as controlled opposition to GOP instead of exterminating Trump, 2016 administration GOP criminals, Jan 6th tourists, even after SCOTUS gave Biden (sitting president) the power to so, has made the US less democratic today than 1930s Germany.
The US is the most corrupt country in history. A common exaggeration is that Trump is a Putin/FSB agent. It's an exaggeration because Zionaziism media and electoral financing control provides total control over US including DNC control to just lose if that is best for Israel. But Neocon/CIA war on Russia is stupid, and Trump resisting that gets plenty of establishment push back.
For some reason, CIA nobel committee did not consider Putin for peace prize. Russian political establishment would consider him only viable candidate. If nobel committee was more fascist than CIA controlled, they might have given Trump the peace prize in 2020 for his "hard work on election accountability". What would be proof of Trump is a traitor to America is saying "Russia, if you're listening, please nuke DC so that we can be liberated from DNC tyranny"
This exactly what this demonic pig fucking CIA sycophantic committee did this year. The CIA vision for world peace is not a humanist objective reality vision.
Of course she does. You always have shit takes.
The only reason she's there is because she want to privatize the petrol industry. Americans are thirty for oil, episode 29
The USA doesn't determine who gets the Nobel prize
The USA are the one imposing their diplomatic narrative. This is a clearly a political nomination. She supported the sanctions that literally starved her own country. She's a piece of shit.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/venezuela-un-expert-calls-human-rights-not-charity-end-hunger-and
https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/for-many-families-every-meal-is-a-struggle-in-venezuelas-economic-crisis/
She might be shitty but the narrative that she was chosen because ofAmerican interests makes no sense when Americans do not choose who gets the award.
I swear I seen that moron around