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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Well, I assume the idea is to see the children before they're that close....

That being said, from my small vehicle I could probably tell what shoes someone is wearing from the same distance that the driver of one of these monstrosities can barely tell their hair color.

I get why trucks exist, I just don't get why so many people drive them as their primary or only vehicle when they don't regularly haul anything more than groceries.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I get why trucks exist,

Those are hardly "trucks".

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, I assume the idea is to see the children before they're that close....

It is, but that does not help you when you stop to talk with the neighbour and their child runs in front of your car while you don't see.

It should at least be mandatory to have a front & rear facing cameras and proximity sensors for cars like this.

[–] flippinfreebird@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

EPA regulations on emissions, in relation to size, caused light trucks (and the SUVs based on them) to grow to the size you see. Ironically, the fuel efficient small pickup trucks and SUVs we grew up with in the 80s and 90s don't meet modern standards. I die a little inside every time I see one of the Nissan trucks, like the one I totaled. ;_;

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I'm holding on to my 21 year old 1st gen Colorado like my life depends on it. I'm so mad small pickups aren't a choice nowadays...

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's bullshit. Most of the area behind the grill is empty space. Nothing to do with EPA ( which doesn't even exist any more).

The truck makers need to justify the ridiculous profit margins on these 60s era technology vehicles, so they just made them taller, to the point people need steps to get into them. I'm sure someone is working on an escalator.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The "nothing stops Ram" ad proves Google has become self aware and has a sense of humor...

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They have become prohibitively expensive to have as a secondary vehicle, if someone is in a position to need a truck occasionally, most people can't afford to have it as anything other than their daily driver.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

$200 a tank as a daily driver. "Why am I poor? Is it the Jews?".

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Generally about 80 bucks every other week. Depends on where you live and how much you drive I guess. The tanks are huge and the milage is better than it used to be, though still not great.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If you only need a truck occasionally, rent one.

I don't understand the problem here.

Also, these monstrosities are gas guzzlers, a smaller vehicle will be cheaper to run. Your argument lacks merit here.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Occasionally here doesn't just mean "I need to haul a load of dirt twice a summer"

It could mean you need it every weekend for a season, it could mean that sometimes you need a truck right this second but didn't think you'd need one at all today.

I'll grant you that a large number of people who only sometimes need a truck could probably rent one, hell the big box stores near me will rent you one for like 30 bucks for an entire morning, if you're lucky enough to get one. Some people do just like the fucking things. But a lot of people are using them for shit like baseball equipment and job site tools. Shit that literally lives in the bed of the truck because they do need it frequently enough to warrant having a truck but they also have to haul their children to school every morning and can't afford a third vehicle just to keep the crap they need somewhat regularly in.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How much equipment do you need for baseball? Do you routinely carry around the whole field?

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Kinda depends. My wife's cousin is a youth baseball coach, his pickup is generally full of equipment. My sister's kids all do different sports and their third row is perpetually full of different sports equipment.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

Yep, these are all good points, but not entirely the kind of people I'm talking about.

Yes, some people just like them. Those people have questionable taste.

The kind of person you're talking about uses the truck for professional needs.

The vast majority of trucks I see driving around, haven't seen an honest days labor. They just shuttling people back and forth from place to place.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Renting a truck right now in my area is $200 a day. If I need a truck for a day, I will almost certainly not be in a place financially to rent one

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Reading your other comments, you're probably one of few exceptions to the steadfast rule that people shouldn't buy trucks. Sounds like you used your head when selecting one. Good job.

I can fill up my little four cylinder vehicle for about $50 .... Canadian money too.

I've also poured over $100 into a truck and didn't even crack a half a tank of gas. And I was thinking that the gas gauge didn't seem to be going down any faster than it would have in my car.... I realized when I filled it that the gauge represented 3-4x the amount of fuel.

My average in my little car is around 6L per 100km.... Maybe upwards of 7 if I'm doing a lot of city driving.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a common miscalculation.

Having a smaller car can easily save you $200 per month or even more depending on how much you drive. People are routinely spending an extra few $10k to buy a bigger vehicle (or spend an equal amount of money for a truck lease), and after that they say they couldn't afford to spend $200 to rent a truck for a day.

The thing is that you often don't see the cost of a large vehicle (or of any vehicle in general). While you drive, you don't pay for anything. Infrequently, you pay for a whole tank of gas, and once a month you pay for insurance, and even less frequently you pay for maintenance. And value depreciation is something you don't even see at all, it just occurs.

All of that is more or less hidden cost. When you get into your car you don't go like "Ok, this drive down to the super market will cost me X$ in fuel, Y$ in insurance, Z$ in maintenance and Q$ in depreciation".

But if you rent a car, you clearly see all the cost upfront, so it seems much more expensive.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

That's why I bought the smallest truck on the market. Great gas mileage too. And it was actually cheaper than many new cars coming in under 30k

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago

You can rent them for $20 at Home Depot or Lowe's. But, rent the vans, like actual workers use.