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Eyes Up's purpose is to "preserve evidence until it can be used in court." But it has been swept up in Apple's attack on ICE-spotting apps.

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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don’t have a right to a “fair trial” for not being able to prove you’re a citizen or have a valid visa to be in the country though lol. This doesn’t need a trial because there’s nothing to argue, nothing in question. Citizenship records exist. Visa records exist.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn't even make sense. A trial is where you'd find out whether or not you'd be able to prove it. Are you suggesting weresupposed to not assume innocence if they don't have an idea in them at the time of detainment, because that's a right too

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

You know that police can check citizenship on these things called computers, right? When the police ask if you have a drivers license, they already know if you have one or not, and even if it’s expired.

You don’t need a trial to prove you’re a citizen - you just need to actually be a citizen. Do you think people go to trial to prove that they have a drivers license? Lol

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They don't punish you for driving without a license before a trial though. You still have to be found guilty, and they have a right to that process

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes they do lol. They give you a ticket on the spot. If you don’t have a license, which they can tell simply by looking up your details, you are guilty. It’s the same with citizenship/immigration status - it’s not a subjective thing, or something that can be argued in court.

You don’t go to trial for being caught driving without a license lol

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Well that should change too