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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 69 points 5 days ago (5 children)

The VP has basically no power other than try to persuade the POTUS behind the scenes, which from what I've read, she did to some degree, but to no effect.

Where she blew it was when she said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden. That was the end for her campaign. (regardless of whether anyone thinks it should have been that way or not, IMO that was the death blow)

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

She presided over the US senate and cannot be dismissed by the president, how did she have "basically no power"???

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Agreed...Also, if she had no power and is not responsible for anything Bidens government did, how is she at all capable of doing the job of the president? her qualifications were that she was a fly on the wall and observed others, but didnt participate in any meaningful way, huh. She simultaneously blameless and had no power, but also the most experienced, most qualified to do the job and the only one the DNC could possibly put up against trump. What a fuckin joke of a party.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

💯 so sick of hearing about small beans uwu bomber harris

[–] redhilsha@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] leadore@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's the same for every VP, not just her. POTUS makes the final decision. VP can't override it.

[–] redhilsha@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Smallbean VP. Second-in-Command of the US.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Obviously, as I said, I'm talking about power to decide policy. The VP (as it has been for all of them, not just her) can advise, try to persuade, but it's the POTUS who makes the final decisions.

The VP can't override the POTUS on anything. That's just a fact.

There are lots of replies conflating that fact with the positions she took during her campaign. She was obviously totally responsible for positions she took in the campaign. I'm not sure Trump wouldn't have still won no matter what positions she took, but we'll never know. Point is, she took the positions she did, and she lost.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 4 days ago

That and saying we will have the most lethal military. Plus we want trump and gops immigration policies

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

The VP has basically no power other than try to persuade the POTUS behind the scenes, which from what I’ve read, she did to some degree, but to no effect.

The POTUS didn't dictate her positions during the campaign. Stop making excuses just because she supported genocide for you.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 days ago

Yeah, she was going to become a war criminal, but the voters let her down.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Where she blew it was when she said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden. That was the end for her campaign.

iirc her campaign said “the Biden people” demanded she say that.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

She wasn't required to listen to the biden people. The biden people hid his mental decline until it was too late. Their political instincts are runny dogshit just like their entire wing of the party.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

That was “the Biden people”’s point, yeah.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So either she should have not made that promise or she should have broken it. Easy enough. It's not like she didn't know what was on the line.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I think that's a hindsight sort of thing. Of course she should have. But we all know the answer.