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To say "we have trump because of you"... trump is trying to create an apocalypse on earth and kamala is the villain.
What’s your issue? Nothing about the statement is inaccurate. Though it is missing a lot of context, such as it was Clinton who ordered the pied piper strategy to elevate Trump to the nomination, so she shares a lot of the blame.
I don't think we're going to get someone to the left of Kamala for the next few presidents. All the protest voters helped our country choose hard mode, and a lot of them are trying to rationalize it in any way that doesn't make them feel like they played a part in such a close election.
We have Trump because more people voted for Trump, and lots of people didn't vote at all. You could blame Biden or Kamala, sure, but the entire political party could also be blamed, along with the establishment itself. Was Kamala the best candidate to run? Probably not. Biden decided to try for another term, though, and we ended up where we are.
When you can choose between the lesser of 2 evils, or not choose at all: be aware of what "not choosing" will actually do.
Then you're not going to win any elections for the next few presidents
"I'm so left win that I'll rather have trump than someone left of him"
Never change ml.
What they said is 99% republican cannot win against 100% republican because Republican policy is extremely unpopular with anyone who might vote democrat, therefore if they keep running moderates, they will continue to lose.
Idk how you got that shit, but if you need help comprehending anything else, just ask instead of whatever lead you to believe they support trump.
Wow, I think I stuck a nerve.
I have sadly seen way to often the ml bad faith arguments. And again and again useful idiots falling for them.
Yeah no fuck off, you are just lying about what we believe.
Funny, I see you're a mander.xyz instance in your name. Why you say "we" when I talk about ml?
Is this your puppet account? Never change :)
I switched to mander when traveling through China because .ml is blocked by the great firewall.
"I support the extermination of all Arabs; the only thing I care about is shedding the blood of foreign infants and there is nothing I wouldn't do to support the victory of the white race"
Never change .world
Incoherent
No, it's perfectly coherent, you're just still so angry about me calling your actually incoherent post incoherent that you're now stalking me around.
Cry harder
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Whaa there's no more boot for me to lick whaa
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You'd rather have trump than someone to the left of you.
Hey, I wanted to apologize. We got in a brief back and forth in another thread, and I had you pinned wrong. You’re one of the good ones.
Good to know you got so angry you're going to start stalking me around
Uhuh, you just happened to show up here to specifically start replying to me and crying about me you other users
Cry harder
Cry harder
Cry harder
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Your comment is exactly why Hillary and Harris lost. Even now, you can't see that the compromise candidate will eventually fail, and continue to fail, because their values don't match the voters.
And hey, if you had written this comment before 2016, or even before 2024, we could understand your instinct. You might not have realized how the Dems' shift to the right would undercut the entire party. But now you should be able to figure it out. Take Harris's policies, for example. Which ones were going to benefit the average American? She was weak on Israel, her border strategy was xenophobic (and therefore racist), her home owner tax credit would not have lowered housing or rent prices for the vast majority of Americans... In other words, even if she got everything she wanted, would it have made our lives better? I just don't see it, and neither did hundreds of millions of Americans.
by "protest voters" you mean the ones that voted Kamala specifically to protest Trump?
All it would take to be left of Harris is opposing genocide and unlawful deportations.
The problem is that you Blue MAGAs support fascism, too, but you believe yourselves better than the Red MAGAs because you like fascists with a commitment to decorum. And you project that onto the rest of us, so you think our rejection of these Democrats is simply a rejection of decorum. Just like the Red MAGAs, you cannot even conceive of any “good American” rejecting your party’s fascism. And probably, just like them, you don’t actually pay attention to the policies you’re really supporting. You just treat it like team sports.
We should never stop holding leaders responsible for their actions.