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This is a great example of "the left" being manipulated to turn on itself. Newsom ain't great but he is better than anything my former party Republicans put forth. If he makes it through the primaries, please for the love of Satan vote for him in the general. If Republicans win again it's completely over. If I were still one I'd be completely OK with so many worse things happening. Be more scared of what is yet to come than a groveling centrist like Newsom.
Yeah, Obama is dividing the left with another power play. People don't want Newsom for a number of reasons. People want to vote for an actual leader who has principles.
Vote for him in the general regardless. Why is this so hard? Vote in the primary and show up in the general. Our voting system is so simple.
I couldn't vote for Bernie Sanders in the 2020 primary because of Obama's power play. Convincing effectively all candidates to drop out and endorse Biden was election interference.
Our voting system is already rigged and the person warning that Republicans are rigging the next election is responsible, in part.
Nah, that just encourages them to ratfuck progressives. I am not voting for Newsom in the general.
You both can be right with these seemingly opposed stances. Doesn‘t matter actually, all that matters is that the left is divided and the right isn‘t. That‘s all it takes for evil to win.
Change that!
This is my point reiterated. I don't like newsom either, but i would vote for him 1x10^100 if he were the candidate in the general. The "he is being normalized" shit is why the left loses all the time. Complain about him, but don't assume enough centrists wont vote for him in the primaries for him to be the general candidate. I'm tired of people not voting, then bitching about the current administration.
Wow you'd vote for Hitler (D) over Hitler (R/) you are very brave and smart.
The .ml is insanely consistent with being incredibly stupid. I wish I was comfortable being as dumb as you are.
So there is a line. You wouldn't vote for Literally Hitler. Good Job! How about Trump (D)? In the 90's a lot of democrats, including Dems you probably have voted for and supported online, loved Trump.
How about a President (R ) who thinks that allowing the US to use Drones to kill anyone in the world as long as the CIA has a good reason to kill them is also ok? What if that were President (D)? Any issue there?
https://lemmy.world/post/37399210
And? Of course they are going to do this shit. Good people don't rise against great evil, sort of evil people use it to slither into power.
Newsom, the Zionist guy who likes destroying homeless people's encampements for PR ain't "great". That's quite an understatement.
Newsom would be Trump if he lived in Texas. If he is the Democratic nominee in 2028 then I personally am giving up on politics. I've been fighting for a better Democratic party for 40 years, and after all that they are worse than the Republicans were when I started. No, fuck that. Newsom would be the last straw for me. If he gets the nomination, there is no saving the country anyways.
If I see you headed on a train to the camps I'll make sure go give you a thumbs up while you roll by. Giving up is pathetic. Go dig your grave and don't complain when they come for you.
Has 40 years of supporting corrupt Democrats saved us from the camps? It sure doesn't look like it to me. Camps are proceeding right on schedule. That's the whole point. At best the camps get put on hold for four years. At worst, they get diversity quotas for the guards.
Wait, you want to accelerate the camps by 4 years?
Also, to be clear, Newsom would be the worst scenario with diversified guards. If you want a four year pause, nominate Pritzker. If you want to take the country back, don't settle for the first personality MSNBC jiggles in front of your face three years out from the election.
I remember all the uninformed Democratic normie voters creaming themselves over Andrew Cuomo's Covid press conferences where he beat up Trump's response constantly. I kept hearing he could be the one for 2020 until he disgraced himself. Now He's allied with Trump and Trump's Donors, and we can't even get Schumer and Jeffries to support his Democratic opponent. And you think these people fight for you?
Cuomo is Trump in a different package. More than for any other name being thrown around for 2028, so is Newsom. He's a chameleon and a political opportunist. The only thing he hates about Trump is that he wants Trump's chair.
I will probably go Pritzker in the primary. But again, I'm not dumb enough not to fall in line during the general. I've been doing it since Hillary and regret not voting for Obama both times while I was still a registered republican. All choices on the dem ballot are better than a republican.
I did vote for Obama, through I was a Limbaugh fan in the Bill Clinton era. Maybe I've just had more time to get sick of it than you.
The bigger point is this. We are still three years out from the election and you have limited time for advocacy. Why on earth do you think the best use of your time is to sell lefties on inadequate Democratic representation that might not even get the nomination?
This is the time to either fight Trump, or fight for stronger Democrats in the next election. If Newsom (or Pritzker) gets the nomination then do what you must, but why argue it now? First of all, it just makes the cocktail liberals more smug and less likely to look for someone better, and it makes leftists more frustrated and more likely to defect in the general. This is the gap when the left is supposed to be "allowed" to challenge the establishment. Why make them feel even more rejected by the party? You think you're helping?
Are you honestly telling me that you expect Newsom would roll back more than some cosmetic fringes of Trump's immigration policy? Biden sure didn't. You think Newsom is going to roll back Palentir and the surveillance state? Not a chance in hell.
Will trump or the next republican do any of this either? You're asking the stupidest question when the answer is staring you in the face.
Did I say I plan to vote for a Republican?