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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Are you for real right now?

Answer me these questions: Is Russia INVADING Ukraine? If so, do they succesfully hold any Ukrainian land? Then they're winning. Even if they only hold and keep east+Crimea, that means they won and gained territory. How does this not compute to some of you?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Ok so what you are telling me is that a country which invades another is still winning even if their army is in full retreat, as long as they remain in the other without giving up?

Because that doesn't make any sense.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Full retreat? Wtf are you talking about? Russia is not surrendering, quite the opposite actually.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I am taking your logic to the extreme trying to find the limits of it, you simply stated that as long Russia hols land in Ukraine then Russia is winning, which misses most data telling how well the parties are doing.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Mexico invades US and holds Texas. Mexico appears weaker, have lost more men, but they still hold texas with no end in sight. Is US winning?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That is not accurate to the situation in Ukraine.

Since the peak of the full scale invasion began in 2022, Russia has lost control of about 50 000 km2 of Ukrainian territory.

Entire fronts have been pushed back out of Ukraine.

So while the scale is still on Russias side, the war is going badly for them.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 6 hours ago

Peak? Like, during the initial rush? How is that metric objective? War is about attrittion and slow gains, not some imaginary metric relative to what happened years ago. As of things stand now, Russia is not retreating, they're not losing territories and are already rebuilding some of the taken cities, clearly showing they have no intentions of stopping this war, unless Ukraine surrenders. In 2025, who do you think produces more ammo, Russia or entirety of NATO combined?