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I get the message but 2 shows shown there don't fit that bill. Peggy was probably more useless than Al in Married with children. And Phil was actually a decent husband in Modern family. It's right about Everybody loves raymond though. Not sure what she saw in him.
The adult responsibilities need to be shared fairly. If someone is a stay at home partner, they should get more house chores to compensate for the working person. Otherwise the working person gets saddled with work, childcare and house chores and no time for themselves.
This arrangement generally does not acknowledge that caring for children is work.
Oh you’re “staying home with the kids” all day? You should be the full time maid and cook to make up for that. And obviously be my unpaid therapist as well because well, emotional labor doesn’t count either!
That's fair, but then I know a few couples with one breadwinner and children in school or no children but the partner with no job expects the chores to be split 50/50.
To me, hours worked counts for hours of chores. So a partner without a job and no kids to watch better be doing 40-50 hours of chores a week before wanting to see the working partner do anything around the house.
I'd take that deal to never have to go to work again.
And if the kids are in daycare for 8 hours a day? You got any kids? Because I do.
Also, once the person who works outside the home comes home are they expected to take over the childcare completely while the other relaxes or is it split evenly when home? Working all day and ignoring things when getting home is bad when the other continues their work into the evening and the reverse is as well.
The main thing is that over the course of a day their contributions are balanced out.
how? Since I specifically put :
Also, I seem to remember the only thing Peggy nagged Al for was sex.
But she also constantly emotionally abused him, made fun of his manhood, of his earning potential, of his sexual prowess, of his ability to be a father, witnessed him constantly suffering, somehow made that his fault, and yet expected sex from the man, expected him to please her.
Like, he's not any kind of a role model. His character was intentionally written to be despicable. But at the same time, like, holy fucking shit, he would have been so much happier if he had just divorced her. She would have been so much happier if she had just divorced him. It was entirely toxic. there are no redeeming qualities from any of the characters in this show.
I thought he divorced her, started a cabinet company and then remarried a lady from Columbia..
Did you come away from Married With Children having expected a normal family? The joke is that they're a dysfunctional clusterfuck.
I watched it for, uh, two other reasons...
Of course not - they're responding to OP's incredibly myopic post with valid context.
If Peggy wants Al share in the housework, Peggy can get a job.
I think Fresh Off The Boat probably doesn’t fit either; I only saw a few episodes, but none of them tried to present a nagging wife trope.
He runs a business (restaurant) all day and the kids help with housework
Ah yeah haven't seen that.
Basically what I came here to say. Message is good but a couple of the examples might not be the best.
If anything, Al was the "nagging wife" in MwC. Also Jefferson, too lol.